I can see that you don't recognise your nation aka Country anymore...this happened in a city in Mexico. Hope that clears it up for you. Note the article says the kidnap victims were traveling here to seek job information and they didn't say "illegally".

Decaf wrote:
unaffiliated_person wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: 5 SKoreans kidnapped in Mexican border city

Just more and more minorities trying to get in here, spread disease in our ERs, fill our schools, take jobs for the majority, and bring in non-Christian faiths.

By 2050 I won't even recognize my nation anymore. It'll just be some Mexican-Asian hybrid where no one speaks English, no one has a good job, and no innovation is coming forth.

Don't like the Asians either? They are the ones who brought you Toyota, Honda, Samsung, Sony, Yamaha, and just about every computer part in the machine you are typing on. I would hardly say that Asian immigrants will stifle innovation.

Sadly, this is true. America has lost most of its innovative spirit, but at least liberals can celebrate unbridled cultural diversity.

We have always been a nation of emigrants, Decaf, with a diversity of languages, religions, origins, etc.

That's not going to stop. And we are not failing. The admin has been rebuffed in its attempts to gut the Constitution, events are forcing either McCain or Obama to take sane steps concering Iraq and Afghanistan, and the recession is flusing out the deadwood of business greed and stupidity.

And you and I get to post our opinions without fear.

Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: 5 SKoreans kidnapped in Mexican border city

Just more and more minorities trying to get in here, spread disease in our ERs, fill our schools, take jobs for the majority, and bring in non-Christian faiths.

By 2050 I won't even recognize my nation anymore. It'll just be some Mexican-Asian hybrid where no one speaks English, no one has a good job, and no innovation is coming forth.

Apparently you missed at least one salient point.
The South Koreans who were abducted were in Mexico looking for work in MEXICO.

According to the article, there is a pretty hefty Korean population in Mexico, and they tend to operate import and export businesses.

This has nothing to do with 'your nation'. It has everything to do with the fact that kidnapping is also a thriving business in Mexico.

One more point...you blathered something about minorities bringing non-Christian faiths into 'your nation'.

As far as the Mexicans are concerned...the vast majority of these Mexican immigrants are either Catholic, or some other Christian denomination...including LDS.

This is the case in my neck of the woods. And the Asians seem to be predominantly Baptists or Pentecostals.

Although we do have a growing number of Buddhists, with several local monastaries complete with bald monks wearing bright orange robes keeping the grounds of their temples.

Good people. I've done work for them.

As Wren has already said...we are a nation which was built on immigration and immigrants. We are a diverse nation, with diversity of race, culture, and religion.

That's what I love about our nation. It offers the opportunity for anyone who has the drive and the desire to build something for themselves, and their posterity...regardless of their race, culture and religion.

Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
unaffiliated_person wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: 5 SKoreans kidnapped in Mexican border city

Just more and more minorities trying to get in here, spread disease in our ERs, fill our schools, take jobs for the majority, and bring in non-Christian faiths.

By 2050 I won't even recognize my nation anymore. It'll just be some Mexican-Asian hybrid where no one speaks English, no one has a good job, and no innovation is coming forth.

Don't like the Asians either? They are the ones who brought you Toyota, Honda, Samsung, Sony, Yamaha, and just about every computer part in the machine you are typing on. I would hardly say that Asian immigrants will stifle innovation.


Did Asians invent the a-bomb or the transistor, cure polio, go to the moon, win WWI and WWII?

Innovation is the result of the MAJORITY members who reside in Europe and North America (north of the Rio Grande).

Asians are skilled copiers and assemblers of computers and cars at $4.19 per hour. Nothing more.

Your ignorance is only topped by your bigotry.

The Koreans in my neck of the woods are among some of the most successful businessmen in our community.

They are hard working, industrious, and frugal. They started out with very little, and they earned their way into wealth.

They require their children to achieve excellence in their studies, and when these children are released at the end of the school day, they go straight to the family business, do their homework, and help out in the family business.

You asked..."Did Asians invent the a-bomb or the transistor, cure polio, go to the moon, win WWI and WWII?"

We have discussed this before...only you were devaluing the contributions of African Americans.

At that time, I provided information proving that there were many contributions made by African Americans in the field of science.

I also provided quite a bit of information which places the medical and scientific prowess of Asians hundreds, and thousands of years ahead of Caucasians.

The Egyptians, the Persians, the Orientals were building stone edifices while Caucasians were still living in mud, stick, and adobe hovels.

Homer c. 800 BC remarked in the Odyssey: "In Egypt, the men are more skilled in medicine than any of human kind" and "the Egyptians were skilled in medicine more than any other art".[1] The Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt around 440 BC and wrote extensively of his observations of their medicinal practices. Pliny the Elder also wrote favorably of them in historical review. Hippocrates (the "father of medicine", Herophilos, Erasistratus and later Galen studied at the temple of Amenhotep, and acknowledged the contribution of ancient Egyptian medicine to Greek medicine.

Educate yourself on India.

In the cities of the civilization in India civilization flourished in the third millennium BC, and were comparable to 17th century cities. They exhibit high degree of architectural and engineering knowledge. Their engineering technology and measurement system may indicate the existence of a mathematical system. The cities were not haphazard developments but seem to have been centrally planned. They were divided into commercial, residential, craft and industrial sections. The streets were straight, with wider main roads and narrower alleys for residential areas. The narrower streets left at right angles from the main street. The residences faced front on the side roads and not on the main road to avoid the busy noisy traffic. The Indus houses were two storied and were made out of fired clay bricks.These cities were also the first to have indoor plumbing and sewer system.

You have made such issue about the atom bomb. Was that such a great accomplishment? Aside from the development of nuclear power plants...I do not see the development of nuclear weapons to be among the greatest of mankind's achievements.

It has been noted that there was no warfare between the thousand cities and towns in the ancient cities of India, and very few weapons have been excavated.

The Mayas sutured wounds with human hair, reduced fractures, and used casts. They were skillful dental surgeons and made prostheses from jade and turquoise and filled teeth with iron pyrite. Three clinical diseases, pinta, leishmaniasis, and yellow fever, and several psychiatric syndromes were described. Weiss documented the presence of "supra-inial lesions" in Zaculeu. Guatemala (Weiss 1967, 1981). According to the skeletal evidence, the first technique to be employed in skull opening was abrasion, which was combined later with drilling and cutting, Evidence for practices relating to health and medicine in the Maya civilization include several ways to heal the body.

Raymond...you're a real piece of work. Do you go to secret meetings and wear long white robes and a tall pointed hood?

Jaye wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
unaffiliated_person wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: 5 SKoreans kidnapped in Mexican border city

Just more and more minorities trying to get in here, spread disease in our ERs, fill our schools, take jobs for the majority, and bring in non-Christian faiths.

By 2050 I won't even recognize my nation anymore. It'll just be some Mexican-Asian hybrid where no one speaks English, no one has a good job, and no innovation is coming forth.

Don't like the Asians either? They are the ones who brought you Toyota, Honda, Samsung, Sony, Yamaha, and just about every computer part in the machine you are typing on. I would hardly say that Asian immigrants will stifle innovation.


Did Asians invent the a-bomb or the transistor, cure polio, go to the moon, win WWI and WWII?

Innovation is the result of the MAJORITY members who reside in Europe and North America (north of the Rio Grande).

Asians are skilled copiers and assemblers of computers and cars at $4.19 per hour. Nothing more.

Your ignorance is only topped by your bigotry.

The Koreans in my neck of the woods are among some of the most successful businessmen in our community.

They are hard working, industrious, and frugal. They started out with very little, and they earned their way into wealth.

They require their children to achieve excellence in their studies, and when these children are released at the end of the school day, they go straight to the family business, do their homework, and help out in the family business.

You asked..."Did Asians invent the a-bomb or the transistor, cure polio, go to the moon, win WWI and WWII?"

We have discussed this before...only you were devaluing the contributions of African Americans.

At that time, I provided information proving that there were many contributions made by African Americans in the field of science.

I also provided quite a bit of information which places the medical and scientific prowess of Asians hundreds, and thousands of years ahead of Caucasians.

The Egyptians, the Persians, the Orientals were building stone edifices while Caucasians were still living in mud, stick, and adobe hovels.

Homer c. 800 BC remarked in the Odyssey: "In Egypt, the men are more skilled in medicine than any of human kind" and "the Egyptians were skilled in medicine more than any other art".[1] The Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt around 440 BC and wrote extensively of his observations of their medicinal practices. Pliny the Elder also wrote favorably of them in historical review. Hippocrates (the "father of medicine", Herophilos, Erasistratus and later Galen studied at the temple of Amenhotep, and acknowledged the contribution of ancient Egyptian medicine to Greek medicine.

Educate yourself on India.

In the cities of the civilization in India civilization flourished in the third millennium BC, and were comparable to 17th century cities. They exhibit high degree of architectural and engineering knowledge. Their engineering technology and measurement system may indicate the existence of a mathematical system. The cities were not haphazard developments but seem to have been centrally planned. They were divided into commercial, residential, craft and industrial sections. The streets were straight, with wider main roads and narrower alleys for residential areas. The narrower streets left at right angles from the main street. The residences faced front on the side roads and not on the main road to avoid the busy noisy traffic. The Indus houses were two storied and were made out of fired clay bricks.These cities were also the first to have indoor plumbing and sewer system.

You have made such issue about the atom bomb. Was that such a great accomplishment? Aside from the development of nuclear power plants...I do not see the development of nuclear weapons to be among the greatest of mankind's achievements.

It has been noted that there was no warfare between the thousand cities and towns in the ancient cities of India, and very few weapons have been excavated.

The Mayas sutured wounds with human hair, reduced fractures, and used casts. They were skillful dental surgeons and made prostheses from jade and turquoise and filled teeth with iron pyrite. Three clinical diseases, pinta, leishmaniasis, and yellow fever, and several psychiatric syndromes were described. Weiss documented the presence of "supra-inial lesions" in Zaculeu. Guatemala (Weiss 1967, 1981). According to the skeletal evidence, the first technique to be employed in skull opening was abrasion, which was combined later with drilling and cutting, Evidence for practices relating to health and medicine in the Maya civilization include several ways to heal the body.

Raymond...you're a real piece of work. Do you go to secret meetings and wear long white robes and a tall pointed hood?

Well-stated. Supremacists live in their own misguided world.

Wren wrote:
We have always been a nation of emigrants, Decaf, with a diversity of languages, religions, origins, etc.

That's not going to stop.

But we haven't always been a nation of legal emigrents, Wren, which was my point in the first place.

And that is what liberals are celebrating.