shutup wrote:

It's an amusing stereotype, but I had a surgery last year that would rival the worst child birth unless you've had 25 kids in as many days, because for about 4 months the pain was, most of the time, excrutiating, and that's AFTER doping up. Of course, during the surgery itself, I felt nothing because I was in la-la land.

I admire women for going through childbirth (though my wife said, because of the epideral, it was a walk in the park), but it is possible for men to experience a great deal of pain too.

I am, in no way, proposing going "back to the basics" btw. My wife would bring a shotgun to her next delivery if she knew there were to be no epidural. (the shotgun is to force the anethesiologist to administer the epidural)


I like your wife's attitude! ;D

I am not trying to say that a man can't feel excrutiating pain, I just take exception to anyone (male or female) telling me that the pain is in my head.

Betz wrote:

PerfectxViolation wrote:


I was really confused when the I was getting ready to leave the hospital after delivery and the doctor rambled off a three page list of narcotics I could have a prescription for. Why would I want to take something that would knock me out when I have a newborn to take care of, and breastfeeding at that, I asked. He said he was required to offer the painkillers, because I was in pain, having just given birth. Frightening really, especially with all the abuse of such narcotics.


They are so free and easy with offering narcotics, that it is very frightening. I hate the way narcotics make me feel, so I refuse to take them. Every doctor I've ever told to leave it at 800 mg ibuprofen looks at me like I've got lobsters coming out of my ears. Then they bitch when a patient comes in specifically to get another narcotic prescription. Amazing.


Even the 800's make me feel strange. Not like Loritab, but woozy nonetheless.

I think saying that every c-section requires more recovery time than any vaginal birth is incorrect. Each childbirth is different. It depends on the mother. On average, I would say that it is a true statement, however. Probably no c-section mothers out milking cows an hour after birth.

Norcal wrote:

PerfectxViolation wrote:

Betz wrote:

dinko1x wrote:

Betz wrote:

dinko1x wrote:

Reverend Bob wrote:

Women need to get back to basics and have natural child births, no epidurals either.


My wife does it this way (natural). The nurses were always impressed saying that they could never do it. It is all your head whether or not you can or cannot.


And your degree in Psychology is from where? ;D


I just really think that if you wanted to you could. There are times when it should be used. Such as the 13 pound baby that was mentioned or when a C-Section is unavoidable, but I also think it is used too much in some cases where it would be better to do it natural.

I hear the recover time is less when you do it natural and much longer when you use "pain killers" - thoughts?


My own experience . . . first child with epidural, almost 9 lbs, home within 24 hours, Second, twins (around 6 lbs each), no epidural (not by choice, but by the fact that there wasn't time between getting to the hospital & giving birth), 3 days in the hospital, blood transfusions (nothing to do with epidural). Didn't take any narcotic pain relievers after either of the births . . . didn't need them and my ex-husband would have just swiped them anyway.
Couldn't pay me enough to do it natural if I had to do it again.


I was really confused when the I was getting ready to leave the hospital after delivery and the doctor rambled off a three page list of narcotics I could have a prescription for. Why would I want to take something that would knock me out when I have a newborn to take care of, and breastfeeding at that, I asked. He said he was required to offer the painkillers, because I was in pain, having just given birth. Frightening really, especially with all the abuse of such narcotics.


Unless there is a surgery that would require narcotics afterward, that would be the last thing most women would want I suspect. Odd that you had to ask to find out the reasoning for the list of drugs. It seems like the doctors would let your degree of pain dictate the degree of pain relief in aftercare.


With my daughter being such a large baby, it was a very rough delivery. I lost a lot of blood...no surgery though. The doctor offering me access to pretty much any drug I wanted only worried me because I have known more than a few pill poppers in my time. I would hate to think that if any of them just had a child, they would have access to more drugs. If there were a surgery, sure, offer something, but I don't believe *most* mothers would want it. It just surprised me, thats all

KitKat wrote:

Norcal wrote:

KitKat wrote:

Norcal wrote:

KitKat wrote:

Norcal wrote:

KitKat wrote:

Reverend Bob wrote:

Norcal wrote:

Inspire Me wrote:

Women need to get back to basics and have natural child births, no epidurals either.


You pass a watermelon through your nose and I'll listen to you.


Oh puhleeze, the ratio is not even the same as passing a baby. Besides that pain brings a greater sense of accomplishment and a deeper respect for life. Science has made it too easy to poop out a kid so maybe if we get back to basics people will treat their kids better.

And how do you propose we get men to treat the kids better?


Easy answer: Watermelon through the nose.

Oh yes. That's right! I hope it's a small watermelon, though, for their sake since most men are such sissies when it comes to pain.

Yep. I'll tell you there is nothing more painful than a husband with an ingrown toenail! If they have the flu - fuget aboot it! Such agony, such pain, such suffering! Wait a minute now! Why do we love them so much? Can't live with them, and can't live without them.

I know! My husband gets a little headache, and life comes to a screeching halt. When I have a migraine, he wonders why I'm not fixing breakfast.


That's because Migraines are all in your head.

Well, duh! I should have known! (I shouldn't be talking about Migraines. I have not had one for quite some time now and I don't want to upset the Migraine goddess.)


Good to hear that they are easing up and I agree not to upset that Migraine Goddess! I have to leave for a bit. My day is fairly busy this afternoon as I have to do a little yard work (move some boulders with my back,) build a new wing on the house, grocery shop, put on makeup and then have a baby. I'll be back in a few hours when I'm done.

Have a wonderful day!

PerfectxViolation wrote:

Norcal wrote:

PerfectxViolation wrote:

Betz wrote:

dinko1x wrote:

Betz wrote:

dinko1x wrote:

Reverend Bob wrote:

Women need to get back to basics and have natural child births, no epidurals either.


My wife does it this way (natural). The nurses were always impressed saying that they could never do it. It is all your head whether or not you can or cannot.


And your degree in Psychology is from where? ;D


I just really think that if you wanted to you could. There are times when it should be used. Such as the 13 pound baby that was mentioned or when a C-Section is unavoidable, but I also think it is used too much in some cases where it would be better to do it natural.

I hear the recover time is less when you do it natural and much longer when you use "pain killers" - thoughts?


My own experience . . . first child with epidural, almost 9 lbs, home within 24 hours, Second, twins (around 6 lbs each), no epidural (not by choice, but by the fact that there wasn't time between getting to the hospital & giving birth), 3 days in the hospital, blood transfusions (nothing to do with epidural). Didn't take any narcotic pain relievers after either of the births . . . didn't need them and my ex-husband would have just swiped them anyway.
Couldn't pay me enough to do it natural if I had to do it again.


I was really confused when the I was getting ready to leave the hospital after delivery and the doctor rambled off a three page list of narcotics I could have a prescription for. Why would I want to take something that would knock me out when I have a newborn to take care of, and breastfeeding at that, I asked. He said he was required to offer the painkillers, because I was in pain, having just given birth. Frightening really, especially with all the abuse of such narcotics.


Unless there is a surgery that would require narcotics afterward, that would be the last thing most women would want I suspect. Odd that you had to ask to find out the reasoning for the list of drugs. It seems like the doctors would let your degree of pain dictate the degree of pain relief in aftercare.


With my daughter being such a large baby, it was a very rough delivery. I lost a lot of blood...no surgery though. The doctor offering me access to pretty much any drug I wanted only worried me because I have known more than a few pill poppers in my time. I would hate to think that if any of them just had a child, they would have access to more drugs. If there were a surgery, sure, offer something, but I don't believe *most* mothers would want it. It just surprised me, thats all


I think my wife only took some ibuprofen for a couple of days following delivery to help with the swelling.

Betz wrote:

the pain is in my head.


Pfft! That's ridiculous. Pain expresses itself through facial expressions so you can literally "see" the pain someone is going through.

If I witnessed some birth and the woman just sat there all "la-dee-daa" and didn't even realize the baby was born, then latter say it was the most painful thing in the world, I would think it was in her head. But usually a woman is moaning, squirming and writhing and contorting her facial muscles in such a way she starts to pop blood vessels in her head.

I've been constipated before, and I imagine child birth is 100 times that discomfort!