SwanSong wrote:

If that's really the picture she's a beautiful lady with a lovely smile. Nothing offensive about it.

After saying that, it's still amazing to me how much attention the words sex and pornographic get.

Everyone, please, get your head out of your Reproductive Chakra.

In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy residing in the human body. The New Age movement, and to some degree the distinctly different New Thought movement, have also adopted and elaborated on this belief.


Just because this not offensive to you, does not mean it is not upsetting to others. I admit when I first saw this, I was only shocked because there is no way in hell that I would ever let a photographer and others be present for a shoot like that. Oh, course I close my eyes when I pass by the mirror to get into the shower.

The newspaper was delivered to me in a elementary school setting. This is too adult for them, nor would I ever want to presume that other parents should be okay with it, so I quickly got it out of the area where children would come across it. I respect that parents have the right to demand from their community certain standards of decency. My right to throw a punch ends at another's face. Parents have the right and reresponsibilityo raise their children with the standards they value and to expect to have fair warning of the material that may be entering their homes that might cause concern. If the Herald continues to cross this line, it may end up like other newspapers across the nation with a failing business. I remember as a child my first accidental viewing of a picture not unlike this. It does change how you see the world.

belindar wrote:

SwanSong wrote:

If that's really the picture she's a beautiful lady with a lovely smile. Nothing offensive about it.

After saying that, it's still amazing to me how much attention the words sex and pornographic get.

Everyone, please, get your head out of your Reproductive Chakra.

In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy residing in the human body. The New Age movement, and to some degree the distinctly different New Thought movement, have also adopted and elaborated on this belief.


Just because this not offensive to you, does not mean it is not upsetting to others. I admit when I first saw this, I was only shocked because there is no way in hell that I would ever let a photographer and others be present for a shoot like that. Oh, course I close my eyes when I pass by the mirror to get into the shower.

The newspaper was delivered to me in a elementary school setting. This is too adult for them, nor would I ever want to presume that other parents should be okay with it, so I quickly got it out of the area where children would come across it. I respect that parents have the right to demand from their community certain standards of decency. My right to throw a punch ends at another's face. Parents have the right and responsibility to raise their children with the standards they value and to expect to have fair warning of the material that may be entering their homes that might cause concern. If the Herald continues to cross this line, it may end up like other newspapers across the nation with a failing business. I remember as a child my first accidental viewing of a picture not unlike this. It does change how you see the world.


Perhaps parents do have a right to raise their child as they see fit. However, if they raise their child to believe that an image such as this, or their own nude body, is wrong then they are doing a disservice to their children. It sounds as if this may have been the case with you. I would have absolutely no problem with my 5 year old seeing a photo like this. This is an example of what people look like. Do you think it is appropriate to hide all images from all children and to only let their parents decide what they see. Perhaps we should blindfold our children prior to sending them to school. I think that your protection of children is simply the placement on them of your standards. No need to feel guilty, this is what everyone does, but you should understand that you probably expose children to things that would offend their parents every day. My child has been taught the pledge of allegiance, with under God in it, at the young age of 5. I call this indoctrination and it offends me greatly. My child is also offered snacks on occasion that are meat. Although his teacher knows not to give them to him, and he doesn't want them, he is surrounded by it anyway. Heck, meat is sometimes part of the lesson plan which he tends to think is pretty stupid. I agree. The thing is that this is just the beginning of him being exposed to things that I don't want him to be exposed to because he may be to young to understand. However, it is what we do as a society. I deal with it, he will learn to deal with it, and you and other parents should do likewise.

Uhhhhh, there ain't nothin there that I wouldn't see at the local swimming pool.  All the parts are covered.

belindar wrote:

SwanSong wrote:

If that's really the picture she's a beautiful lady with a lovely smile. Nothing offensive about it.

After saying that, it's still amazing to me how much attention the words sex and pornographic get.

Everyone, please, get your head out of your Reproductive Chakra.

In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy residing in the human body. The New Age movement, and to some degree the distinctly different New Thought movement, have also adopted and elaborated on this belief.


Just because this not offensive to you, does not mean it is not upsetting to others. I admit when I first saw this, I was only shocked because there is no way in hell that I would ever let a photographer and others be present for a shoot like that. Oh, course I close my eyes when I pass by the mirror to get into the shower.

The newspaper was delivered to me in a elementary school setting. This is too adult for them, nor would I ever want to presume that other parents should be okay with it, so I quickly got it out of the area where children would come across it. I respect that parents have the right to demand from their community certain standards of decency. My right to throw a punch ends at another's face. Parents have the right and reresponsibilityo raise their children with the standards they value and to expect to have fair warning of the material that may be entering their homes that might cause concern. If the Herald continues to cross this line, it may end up like other newspapers across the nation with a failing business. I remember as a child my first accidental viewing of a picture not unlike this. It does change how you see the world.


I do agree that you shouldn't be showing to other people's children, because not all children are raised to recognize the difference between sexual and non-sexual nudity, unfortunately. However, my children (ages 7,5, and 3) have seen the photo while I've been online here, and I have no problem with them seeing it. It's tastefully done and shows nothing offensive.

Woody,

You've been working on that combination all night. Time to give it up....

gopherus wrote:

belindar wrote:

SwanSong wrote:

If that's really the picture she's a beautiful lady with a lovely smile. Nothing offensive about it.

After saying that, it's still amazing to me how much attention the words sex and pornographic get.

Everyone, please, get your head out of your Reproductive Chakra.

In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy residing in the human body. The New Age movement, and to some degree the distinctly different New Thought movement, have also adopted and elaborated on this belief.


Just because this not offensive to you, does not mean it is not upsetting to others. I admit when I first saw this, I was only shocked because there is no way in hell that I would ever let a photographer and others be present for a shoot like that. Oh, course I close my eyes when I pass by the mirror to get into the shower.

The newspaper was delivered to me in a elementary school setting. This is too adult for them, nor would I ever want to presume that other parents should be okay with it, so I quickly got it out of the area where children would come across it. I respect that parents have the right to demand from their community certain standards of decency. My right to throw a punch ends at another's face. Parents have the right and responsibility to raise their children with the standards they value and to expect to have fair warning of the material that may be entering their homes that might cause concern. If the Herald continues to cross this line, it may end up like other newspapers across the nation with a failing business. I remember as a child my first accidental viewing of a picture not unlike this. It does change how you see the world.


Perhaps parents do have a right to raise their child as they see fit. However, if they raise their child to believe that an image such as this, or their own nude body, is wrong then they are doing a disservice to their children. It sounds as if this may have been the case with you. I would have absolutely no problem with my 5 year old seeing a photo like this. This is an example of what people look like. Do you think it is appropriate to hide all images from all children and to only let their parents decide what they see. Perhaps we should blindfold our children prior to sending them to school. I think that your protection of children is simply the placement on them of your standards. No need to feel guilty, this is what everyone does, but you should understand that you probably expose children to things that would offend their parents every day. My child has been taught the pledge of allegiance, with under God in it, at the young age of 5. I call this indoctrination and it offends me greatly. My child is also offered snacks on occasion that are meat. Although his teacher knows not to give them to him, and he doesn't want them, he is surrounded by it anyway. Heck, meat is sometimes part of the lesson plan which he tends to think is pretty stupid. I agree. The thing is that this is just the beginning of him being exposed to things that I don't want him to be exposed to because he may be to young to understand. However, it is what we do as a society. I deal with it, he will learn to deal with it, and you and other parents should do likewise.


Gopherus,
I have a random quick question for you, and I'm seriously not trying to cause a fight, I'm not aquainted with any atheists (that I'm aware). Does your family celebrate Christmas or any part of the December holidays? Just curious, I know you won't take offense to the question.