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Re: Would hate-crime law threaten liberty? 1 Year ago Karma: 8  
Roland Kayser wrote:

fefifofob wrote:

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Section 1. ...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Can some people be protected more than others?

No one is more protected because everyone can potentially be the victim of a hate crime. If a group of African-Amercan lesbian bikers goes on a rampage against white male Mormons, the white male Mormons would be the victims, and the African-American lesbian bikers would be guilty of a hate crime.

But why the need for punishment enhancement because it was a hate crime? Crime is hateful intrinsically, is it not? Let the law act normally.
 
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Wren wrote:

Roland Kayser wrote:

fefifofob wrote:

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Section 1. ...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Can some people be protected more than others?

No one is more protected because everyone can potentially be the victim of a hate crime. If a group of African-Amercan lesbian bikers goes on a rampage against white male Mormons, the white male Mormons would be the victims, and the African-American lesbian bikers would be guilty of a hate crime.

But why the need for punishment enhancement because it was a hate crime? Crime is hateful intrinsically, is it not? Let the law act normally.


Wren,
Do you think it is appropriate to have a category for terrorism under the law, or can we just rely on our other laws to punish terrorists for crimes they have committed or conspired to committ (as we would for conspiring but failing to committ murder)?
 
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Re: Would hate-crime law threaten liberty? 1 Year ago Karma: -2  
The march toward Sodom continues! Congress and the Courts will not be happy until they force everyone to engage in sodomy so we can all prove how "open minded" we are. Pathetic! Start voting the libs out!!! Otherwise, prepare for more of the same stupidity from our political leaders!
 
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Re: Would hate-crime law threaten liberty? 1 Year ago Karma: 8  
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The march toward Sodom continues! Congress and the Courts will not be happy until they force everyone to engage in sodomy so we can all prove how "open minded" we are. Pathetic! Start voting the libs out!!! Otherwise, prepare for more of the same stupidity from our political leaders!

What a silly statement that our leaders want to "force every one to engage in sodomy. . .".
 
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Vlad Tepes wrote:

The march toward Sodom continues! Congress and the Courts will not be happy until they force everyone to engage in sodomy so we can all prove how "open minded" we are. Pathetic! Start voting the libs out!!! Otherwise, prepare for more of the same stupidity from our political leaders!


Ridiculous.
 
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So my question is; would the people who are agents this bill want to have the protection already given to people because of religion or race removed from law books?

Should we take away the deterrents that are in place that keep people form forming mobs to stop religionists, and African Americans from voting?
 
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