True happiness comes through relationship, intimacy, with the person of Jesus Christ, not any religion or place called a "church". Not even family can bring true happiness, as people are bound to fail other people *gasp* at any given time.

True peace comes when one realizes that God cares so much for them that he bit his lip and sent his baby boy to suffer agonizing pain (though, willingly he suffered) because he knew that it was only way people could know true forgiveness of sin and rest.

True joy is in the knowledge that Romans 8:1 describes unconditional acceptance and love for those found in Christ Jesus, and John 15:15 says that they are his friends.

True love is the found in deep gratitude that I can love Christ because he first loved me (1 John 4:19), filthy as I was in my sin he loved me, and he loved me even before I cared about who he was (Romans 5:eight). It is in the words of Psalm 139 (my favorite) that tells me I was known intimately, and loved before the foundations of the earth, that God wants me to walk in a beautiful plan for my life, and that his thoughts toward me are so numerous that they outnumber the grains of sand on the beach.

True wisdom and understanding comes in knowing that God IS good and kind (Ephesians 2:4-5) and trustworthy with my heart.

True security is knowing that those found in Christ will never have that position, happiness, love, peace, and joy threatened (2 Corinthians 1:22) no matter what happens in their ever-changing life.

Ah, yes, true happiness is in Christ Jesus and him alone.

Darn right, Mormonism is a Cult!

Webster's Dictionary:

Main Entry:
cult
Pronunciation:
?k?lt
Function:
noun
Usage:
often attributive
Etymology:
French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate " more at wheel
Date:
1617

1: formal religious veneration : worship
2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents

Grizz wrote:

Jaye wrote:

Grizz wrote:


And who can deny that the fruits the Joe Smith brought forth was good? Look at the good that the LDS church has done for the world can you deny that? Grow up grizz and all you haters. Cool


Those are the Sheep's clothing, Mormons point to how good they are, and say look at what we do around the world, But what they are pointing to are the outer garments(SHEEPS CLOTHING). But when you uncover the sheeps clothing you find Joseph Smith's evil Doctrine of God, and that is what will destroy peoples souls!


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B.S.

The Lord said that a man might be known by his words and his actions...much as a good tree is known by it's good fruits...and a corrupt tree is known by it's corrupt fruits.

"Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

When John informed Jesus that he and the other disciples had seen a man casting out devils in His name, and the man was not one of the followers of Christ, and they had forbidden him to continue...what did Jesus say?

"Forbid Him NOT; for there is no man which shall do a miracle in My name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

For he that is not against us...is with us on our part.

For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in My name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward."

You worry too much about what the LDS people believe...and far too little about following the admonitions of your Savior.

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What the Bible says about Jesus vs. what Mormonism says about Jesus:

The Bible
He is the virgin-born Son of God, conceived by the Holy Ghost (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:34-35).

Mormonism
Jesus "was born in the same personal, real and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 547, 742).
"When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten Him in His own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family (Adam)" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. I, p. 50).
Christ had a "unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal or resurrected and glorified Father (Adam)" (James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 473).

The Bible
Satan is a created - and fallen - angel (Isaiah 14:12).

Mormonism
"Lucifer - this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind" (Milton R. Hunter of the First Council of Seventy, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).

The Bible
Jesus did not marry.

Mormonism
"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana - We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed" (Orson Hyde, apostle, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 2, p. 82).

The Bible
Jesus is the foundation of the true church (Matthew 16:18; Acts 4:11-12; Colossians 1:18).

Mormonism
Joseph Smith: "I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet" (History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-9).

The Bible
Jesus is the judge of all (John 5:22).

Mormonism
"No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith Every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, Junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

The Bible
Jesus is the one who resurrects all (John 5:28-29).

Mormonism
Joseph Smith will receive the keys of the resurrection. "If we ask who will stand at the head of the resurrection in this last dispensation, the answer is - Joseph Smith, Junior, the Prophet of God. He is the man who will be resurrected and receive the keys of the resurrection, and he will seal this authority upon others, and they will hunt up their friends and resurrect them" (Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 116).

The Bible
Jesus is the eternal Son of God, the Creator, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father and Holy Spirit (John 1:1-14; Colossians 1:15-20; Philippians 2:5-11; Hebrews 1:1-13).

Mormonism
A "council of the Gods" created the world. "In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it In all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods" (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 308, 474).


No, the mormon fruit is the sheep's clothing!

Covering the ravenous wolf (Mormon Doctrine)!

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B.S., B.S., and of course...B.S.

Wren wrote:

There is no one orthodoxy, gang, only living unto Christ.

Try it.


Thank you Wren...I concur.

Aldebaran wrote:

Perfect Violation wrote:

Aldebaran wrote:

Perfect Violation wrote:

I'm sorry, but this Mormon=Cult thing is just plain stupid. People need to stop being so ignorant, and start learning to be accepting of other beliefs.


Your are setting up a straw man with your critique of the analysis. If you had read the entire article (which I assume you did), then you know that not any one thing on that list classifies a group as a cult.

Cults exhort a high degree of control over it's members Physical Behavior, access to Information (which may be critical or contrary to the organization), Thoughts & Emotions.

Reading that analysis you will see that the Mormon church DOES INDEED exhibit many cult-like qualities, and thus a good arguement could be made that the LDS church is a cult.

http://www.rationalrevelation.com/library/bite.html


Reading the analysis would lead me to believe that all organised religions are a cult, if those are the defining factors. Are you prepared to say that?


Absolutely not. I would say however that all religious have at least some cult-like properties.

Mormonism compared to most other mainstream religions is much more extreme in it's control of it's members, in fact I would say it's pretty close to Scientology in that regard.


B.S., B.S., and of course...B.S.

theTruth wrote:

Perfect Violation wrote:

Ok Grizz, I know you are probably a troll of some type, and I shouldn't respond, but you ARE aware that the bible is also full of contradictions and inconsistencies, right?


In relation to cults though, the bible is accepted by Billions, where the lds faith and scriptures only millions, a sort of inherent part of cults is they are a much smaller populous than the main stream hence bible and its religions are mainstream, lds (and others) are cults. This is simple the thinking of some in our country.


In other words...the beliefs of the majority rules where correctness is concerned.

Correct-a-MUNDO!