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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 11 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 51  
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Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?


Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.


You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.



Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.

Dubs, I do remember you bashing Todd Compton as "anti". I have no doubt I remember that. Wren is right.

As for the rest of your statement, it makes no sense. You only come across as having a temper tantrum.
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 11 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 9  
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[the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night..

so if they were sent packing into the night, don't you think we'd have stories later from them about those dang mormons killing dissenters? I mean the saints were expelled to Utah, surely with all the anti Mormon writers of that era, and all the interviews that happened after the saints left to Utah, there would be ONE person come forward and tell the stories.


1. Dead men tell no tales. Those who were sent packing were often followed and 'used up'. And there were those who were afraid to leave the Mormon settlements because those who wished to desert the faith, who tried to abandon the borders of Zion were watched and not allowed to do so.

Or else they were 'used up'. The Saints were cautioned not to ask too many questions about people who suddenly turned up missing.

2. The enemies of the Mormons wrote plenty of stories...but it wouldn't do a bit of good to provide you with the links...after all...they ARE anti's...and the stories are found on anti sites...and you don't buy stories from anti sites...right...Kent?
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 11 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 9  
Dubss wrote:
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KitKat wrote:
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Bearyb wrote, "My only point here is to simply say that we don't know the mind of the Lord, nor how He may choose to deal with whom He chooses to deal with. We will likely never know or fully understand what Joseph knew and understood, and we should probably not concentrate on the faults of others in any case."

This is great advice. I suggest that you will "likely never know or fully understand what Jaye" knows or understands. Leave it alone, please, Bearyb, and follow your own advice.
Nor do you, or anybody fully understand Jaye, becuase much like you and many of your ilk, your ready and able to bash other's faith, but when it comes to discussing your own? Bunch of cowards.


Are you describing yourelf, Dubss? This is not about Jaye at all. It's about you and how you feel about yourself.


And how do I feel about myself oh wiseone? I have a great family, 3 kids, great wife, 15 years of marriage, great job, live in a great house, go on great vacations, have many good friends, feel great about myself, as we all do, I sometimes make mistakes, and need to repent, but overall, I feel great about myself. My life is great, but thanks for the concern.

LOL!

You little liar! No one believes you.

Don't forget, you also claimed to be some kind of karate champ with a 29-0 record. Bigdaddy proved that was a lie.


And as I've said many times, unlike you, I could care less what strangers on a blog believe or disbelieve about me. You will never meet me, never see me, never know the real me. Nor do you really know anyone here.


And how did Bigdummy prove anything I've said is a lie?

He called the UFC folks to check on a 29-0 record. He was told no one has it. Liar.


Unsubstantiated claims like this characterize borderline personalities.


How do you know it's unsubstantiated? Did you call? Or are you believing a guy who is a liar himself?

By the way, I'm not buying that your new here, your just a reincarnated nut job that probally got banned and is coming back around, probally a single cat lady that likes her cats more than reality. I see that alot.

You are so arrogant that it is sickening. And disgusting.

You made some comments in the past concerning hearing impairment. You didn't even realize that deaf people has language problems, yet you say your daughter is deaf. You lie!


Is it not possible that being new to the culture, I didn't know? I mean I have only been learning sign for about a year and a half, my daughter is four, and I have about the same level of sign as she does, my wife is taking sign classes to catch up to her, she now has a signing aide at her preschool, and is passing us up, so excuse me if I didn't know all the details of the deaf community.

This post just further convinced me I'm right. Besides, other things you have said in the past raised a flag with me.

I'm not even talking about sign language skills, dubya.

You are dense, as you yourself would say.


Well you sure can see his lack of empathy of deaf people.. and that's strange for someone who says that their little daughter is deaf....


Poor little mite...eh?

But you know what Kent says about it...he's not the same in real life as he is here.

I wonder if he even gets off his butt to go tuck the little tyke into bed and give her hugs and kisses?


And with all the posts you have here, I wonder if your wife even knows who you are.

And bigdummy, I have never had lack of empathy to deaf people you POSWT, get your facts straight for once and stop lieing and making stuff up.


My wife knows who I am. She's had a little over 34 years to get to know me, and she knows me better than any other human being has ever known me.

I can say with utter confidence that she knows me better than ANYONE...period...save perhaps for myself...and the Lord.

But the fact remains...my wife is an adult, she is not hearing impaired, and she has her own business and activities to attend to.

I do feel sorry for your children Dubya...because you do spend an inordinate amount of time arguing on this forum, which might better be spent with them.

They tend to grow up pretty quickly, Dubya. And the time rapidly comes where youngsters who are neglected by their father seek their role-models and mentoring elsewhere.

Think about it. I'm truly not trying to be rude here. I'm genuinely concerned. Especially regarding a 4 year old girl who is hearing impaired, and for whom the world must be a truly perplexing and frustrating place.


And I feel sorry for your wife, with the amount of posts you have here and the amount of time, never seemingly ever being gone from this site for a few days even, you must never take vacations, never see her much, she must always just see the back of your head typing away maddenly on the computer.

Straighten out your own life Jaye, don't worry about me or my kids, and don't bring them up.


1. You brought up your kids in the first place Kent...not me.

2. My life's pretty straight.

3. My wife is a busy woman...like I said...she has her own business to attend to. She also has her friends, her women's circles and she has also been spending quite a bit of time giving comfort to a couple of friends who are terminally ill.

Consider my words regarding your daughter. I meant well.


Sounds like you both have your seperate worlds apart from each other. mmmmm

Quit trying to be the all wise clifford clavin, and worry about your own life/wife.


Man I can see Dubss now breaking the arm of a long haired hippy for talking too loud in a movie theater,
Only to find out later when he gets to heavens Gates that the long haired hippy was Jesus and he was trying to talk to others about God that day in the theater

Dubss you can't tell when others are trying to be nice or do good....



Your about as illogical as a brick wall.

I seriously doubt Christ would have walked into a crowded theator, interupted people who have paid money to watch a show, be as rude to interupt, and be so insensitive and rude. What a tard.

No, Christ wouldn't have. But then, would He have resorted to violence the way you did (or claim to, at least)?

Please don't use the word "tard". It really isn't very nice.


I believe Christ would have defended himself if someone put their hands on him, yes. With the exception of the martydom, which he undestood was to happen.


Christ taught to return good for evil, kindness for unkindness, and that if a man strikes you on the cheek...offer him the other cheek to strike as well.

According to the Bible, Jesus never lifted a finger to defend Himself.

But He did, on occasion, simply vanish amid the press of the crowd.


Wasn't it you who just said he protected what was his in the temple? Physically throwing people out? I don't look at him as someone who would allow a person to push him around.


Jesus was irate because the money changers had turned His Father's House into a den of thieves.

He was acting in defense of His Father's House.

But as far as defending Himself...He never lifted a finger in his OWN defense.
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 11 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 9  
Dubss wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
kristiclark wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
kristiclark wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Bearyb wrote, "My only point here is to simply say that we don't know the mind of the Lord, nor how He may choose to deal with whom He chooses to deal with. We will likely never know or fully understand what Joseph knew and understood, and we should probably not concentrate on the faults of others in any case."

This is great advice. I suggest that you will "likely never know or fully understand what Jaye" knows or understands. Leave it alone, please, Bearyb, and follow your own advice.
Nor do you, or anybody fully understand Jaye, becuase much like you and many of your ilk, your ready and able to bash other's faith, but when it comes to discussing your own? Bunch of cowards.


Are you describing yourelf, Dubss? This is not about Jaye at all. It's about you and how you feel about yourself.


And how do I feel about myself oh wiseone? I have a great family, 3 kids, great wife, 15 years of marriage, great job, live in a great house, go on great vacations, have many good friends, feel great about myself, as we all do, I sometimes make mistakes, and need to repent, but overall, I feel great about myself. My life is great, but thanks for the concern.

LOL!

You little liar! No one believes you.

Don't forget, you also claimed to be some kind of karate champ with a 29-0 record. Bigdaddy proved that was a lie.


And as I've said many times, unlike you, I could care less what strangers on a blog believe or disbelieve about me. You will never meet me, never see me, never know the real me. Nor do you really know anyone here.


And how did Bigdummy prove anything I've said is a lie?

He called the UFC folks to check on a 29-0 record. He was told no one has it. Liar.


Unsubstantiated claims like this characterize borderline personalities.


How do you know it's unsubstantiated? Did you call? Or are you believing a guy who is a liar himself?

By the way, I'm not buying that your new here, your just a reincarnated nut job that probally got banned and is coming back around, probally a single cat lady that likes her cats more than reality. I see that alot.

You are so arrogant that it is sickening. And disgusting.

You made some comments in the past concerning hearing impairment. You didn't even realize that deaf people has language problems, yet you say your daughter is deaf. You lie!


Is it not possible that being new to the culture, I didn't know? I mean I have only been learning sign for about a year and a half, my daughter is four, and I have about the same level of sign as she does, my wife is taking sign classes to catch up to her, she now has a signing aide at her preschool, and is passing us up, so excuse me if I didn't know all the details of the deaf community.

This post just further convinced me I'm right. Besides, other things you have said in the past raised a flag with me.

I'm not even talking about sign language skills, dubya.

You are dense, as you yourself would say.


Well you sure can see his lack of empathy of deaf people.. and that's strange for someone who says that their little daughter is deaf....


Poor little mite...eh?

But you know what Kent says about it...he's not the same in real life as he is here.

I wonder if he even gets off his butt to go tuck the little tyke into bed and give her hugs and kisses?


And with all the posts you have here, I wonder if your wife even knows who you are.

And bigdummy, I have never had lack of empathy to deaf people you POSWT, get your facts straight for once and stop lieing and making stuff up.


My wife knows who I am. She's had a little over 34 years to get to know me, and she knows me better than any other human being has ever known me.

I can say with utter confidence that she knows me better than ANYONE...period...save perhaps for myself...and the Lord.

But the fact remains...my wife is an adult, she is not hearing impaired, and she has her own business and activities to attend to.

I do feel sorry for your children Dubya...because you do spend an inordinate amount of time arguing on this forum, which might better be spent with them.

They tend to grow up pretty quickly, Dubya. And the time rapidly comes where youngsters who are neglected by their father seek their role-models and mentoring elsewhere.

Think about it. I'm truly not trying to be rude here. I'm genuinely concerned. Especially regarding a 4 year old girl who is hearing impaired, and for whom the world must be a truly perplexing and frustrating place.


And I feel sorry for your wife, with the amount of posts you have here and the amount of time, never seemingly ever being gone from this site for a few days even, you must never take vacations, never see her much, she must always just see the back of your head typing away maddenly on the computer.

Straighten out your own life Jaye, don't worry about me or my kids, and don't bring them up.


1. You brought up your kids in the first place Kent...not me.

2. My life's pretty straight.

3. My wife is a busy woman...like I said...she has her own business to attend to. She also has her friends, her women's circles and she has also been spending quite a bit of time giving comfort to a couple of friends who are terminally ill.

Consider my words regarding your daughter. I meant well.


Sounds like you both have your seperate worlds apart from each other. mmmmm

Quit trying to be the all wise clifford clavin, and worry about your own life/wife.


Man I can see Dubss now breaking the arm of a long haired hippy for talking too loud in a movie theater,
Only to find out later when he gets to heavens Gates that the long haired hippy was Jesus and he was trying to talk to others about God that day in the theater

Dubss you can't tell when others are trying to be nice or do good....



Your about as illogical as a brick wall.

I seriously doubt Christ would have walked into a crowded theator, interupted people who have paid money to watch a show, be as rude to interupt, and be so insensitive and rude. What a tard.

No, Christ wouldn't have. But then, would He have resorted to violence the way you did (or claim to, at least)?

Please don't use the word "tard". It really isn't very nice.


I believe Christ would have defended himself if someone put their hands on him, yes. With the exception of the martydom, which he undestood was to happen.


Christ taught to return good for evil, kindness for unkindness, and that if a man strikes you on the cheek...offer him the other cheek to strike as well.

According to the Bible, Jesus never lifted a finger to defend Himself.

But He did, on occasion, simply vanish amid the press of the crowd.


Wasn't it you who just said he protected what was his in the temple? Physically throwing people out? I don't look at him as someone who would allow a person to push him around.

So you think Christ would break someone's arm just for having a big mouth? As I said, you say anything to justify your own behavior.


I think if someone was pushing him and acting in a threatening manner, he would grab the arm and stop it, yes. As I said in the past, I don't know that I broke his arm, but I did hurt it, as I've also said, I was defending myself, so is it my fault if his arm was hurt? No, it's not.


1. Throughout the 4 gospels there is no mention of Jesus ever lifting a finger in His OWN defense.

And that includes when He was taken at the Garden of Gethsemane, when they grabbed Him so roughly, and spit upon Him, and struck his face... He never lifted a finger.

Peter on the other hand resorted to physical violence and smote the ear off the scribe with his sword.

But Jesus? No. He simply picked up the man's ear, and placed it back upon his head.

He never so much as uttered the slightest word of reproach as He was tried, and sentenced to the torture of scourging, and placed a crown of thorns upon His brow.

2. As far as who was at fault at the theater...you were at fault for injuring the man. You were the one who made the choice to approach the man, and to reproach him by telling him to shut up.

If you had not opened your big mouth...the man would not have gotten in your face...and you would not have been in the position to physically harm another person. And you wouldn't have placed your wife in harm's way either.

Better to leave the theater, and ask for a refund, or inform the manager that a patron is being noisy and ruining the picture for everyone else.

Most martial arts masters worth their salt would say...the best defense...is not being there.

3. The very fact that you took it upon yourself to confront the man and tell him off is a very good indication that you ARE exactly the same in 'real life' as you are here on the forum.
 
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lolz I see not much changes around here.

Well you know the Daily Herald Forum Motto

"S.S.D.D."

Hi PV

How have you been??
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 11 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 9  
Dubss wrote:
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Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?


Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.


You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.



Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.


And what about your Satanic OBSESSION with my faith, my wife's faith, and James WFE Mooney's faith?

How do you justify THAT...Kent?
 
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