Jaye wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:

Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?

Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.

You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.


Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.
Dubs, I do remember you bashing Todd Compton as "anti". I have no doubt I remember that. Wren is right.

As for the rest of your statement, it makes no sense. You only come across as having a temper tantrum.

I concur with both of your points.

Inconvenient how the Herald deleted all of our past comments...isn't it?

Of course it didn't affect Kent much...after all...he keeps lists. He's probably got most of his 'enemies' past comments bookmarked so he can copy and paste them any time he pleases.

I know how to find them if someone can give me the name of the story/Thread it was on, then I can find it

Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Do you suppose that all dissenters against the Mormon faith were Mormons?

By definition, a dissenter is someone who leaves the faith because of disbelief. so yes.

Dubss that's not true!!

dis-sent-er

One who dissents: political dissenters.
often Dissenter One who refuses to accept the doctrines or usages of an established or a national church.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

It's not necessarily a person who was a member of a church it could be just someone or anyone for that matter who just refuses to accept the doctrines of any church..

So now your saying the church went around killing NON mormons just because they wouldn't believe? If that were the case we'd have quite a story and journal and newspaper articles verify this to be the case.

Not necessarily true.

A prime example is what happened to the Expositor.
Printing presses can be easily destroyed, and the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night.

And those who decided to leave could easily be tracked down and murdered in their sleeping roll at their campsite.

The members who were not so zealous as to actually condone these actions were easily discouraged from talking about it. Fear of reprisal is a powerful motivation.

John D.Lee spoke of knowing of many a man who was 'used up' or 'put quietly out of the way'.

So did others involved with the Danites.

The wilderness was vast Dubya. Lots of places to hide bodies where they'd never be found. And the Danites were cunning in their service to the Church, and in carrying out their assigned assassinations.

As for relatives of men who mysteriously disappeared...they probably figured they had met up with Indians.

That was the common tale put out by Mormons after all...the Indians did it.

And the Mormons controlled everything in those communities. It's not like as if a dissenting member, or gentile was going to get damning evidence or tales through to their relatives via the postal service.

Yes this is true Dubss!!

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Look at the murder of Rosmos Anderson (BTW Here's another Name I found for you Dubss) a Mormon Council voted that Anderson must die for violating his covenants.

His wife was ordered to prepare a suit of clean clothing, in which to have her husband buried, and was informed that he was to be killed for his sins, she being directed to tell those who should enquire after her husband that he had gone to California.

Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed.

Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave.

As soon as he was dead they dressed him in his clean clothes, threw him into the grave and buried him.

They then carried his bloody clothing back to his family, and gave them to his wife to wash, when she was again instructed to say that her husband was in California .... The killing of Anderson was then considered a religious duty and a just act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Atonement

See Dubss!!

"ON A SPECIAL NOTE":

Who were Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee who dug Rosmos Andersons Grave and Killed him??

Well let's see:

Klingensmith or Philip K. Smith, as he is called generally, but whose name is Klingensmith, was the Bishop of Cedar City but he is more famous for his role in the Mountain Meadows Massacre


James Haslem was the famous Rider who was sent to Brigham Young from the Mountain Meadows Massacre and was sent back with that Note from Brigham saying let the emigrants pass in safety""


Daniel McFarland was the son-in-law of Isaac C. Haight ecclesiastical leader of the Mormon congregations in the area, Daniel McFarland was also famous for his role in the Mountain Meadows Massacre.


John M. Higbee was the Major and commander of the Iron Militia,
John M. Higbee was the ranking officer and field commander of the detachment at the Mountain Meadows Massacre.


Here's a little of what John D. Lee had to say about John M. Higbee and Klingensmith:

( "at Mountain Meadows" )
I found Major Higbee, Klingensmith. and most of the brethren standing near by where the largest number of the dead men lay.
When I went up to the brethren,

Major Higbee said, "We must now examine the bodies for valuables."

I said, I did not wish to do any such work.

Higbee then said, "Well, you hold my hat and I will examine the bodies, and put what valuables I get into the hat."

The bodies were all searched by Higbee, Klingensmith and Wm. C. Stewart.

I did hold the hat a while, but I soon got so sick that I had to give it to some other person, as I was unable to stand for a few minutes.

The search resulted in getting a little money and a few watches, but there was not much money.

Higbee and Klingensmith kept the property, I suppose, for I never knew what became of it, unless they did keep it.

I think they kept it all.

From The Life and Confessions of John D. Lee
Written by John D. Lee, May 17, 1877


this is what John D. Lee had to say about James Haslem:

"I did not know then that a messenger had been sent to Brigham Young for instructions.

Haight had not mentioned it to me.

I now think that James Haslem was sent to Brigham Young, as a sharp play on the part of the
authorities to protect themselves, if trouble ever grew out of the matter."

John D. Lee also had this to say about James Haslem:

"The first time I heard that a messenger had been sent to Brigham Young for instructions as to what should be done with the emigrants, was three or four days after I had returned home from the Meadows.
Then I heard of it from Isaac C. Haight, when he came to my house and had a talk with me.
He said: "we are all in a muddle.
Haslem has returned from Salt Lake City, with orders from Brigham Young to let the emigrants pass in safety""

From The Life and Confessions of John D. Lee
Written by John D. Lee, May 17, 1877

Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:

Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?

Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.

You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.


Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.

The only thing you got right is that you did learn to spell “libel.”

You called Todd Compton an apostate. There is no question about it.

You libel all the time. There is no question about it.

You called fundamental Christians “satanic”. There is no question about it.

You lied about the UCF. There is no question about it.

You are a liar. There is no question about it.

KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:

Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?

Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.

You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.


Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.
Dubs, I do remember you bashing Todd Compton as "anti". I have no doubt I remember that. Wren is right.

As for the rest of your statement, it makes no sense. You only come across as having a temper tantrum.

Thanks for the vouch, KitKat. You now are a liberal left whacko "satanic" fundamentalist Christian. You are right: part of Dubss' psychopathology is throwing temper tantrums.

Remember when LVMike would demand the same evidence over and over so that he could say it was not true, and some of us started simply saying "It has been posted already"? Dubssie is simply trying to put pebbles in front of the train of logic that is rushing down on him.

Jaye wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:

Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?

Dubs: DELETED

You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.


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Dubs, I do remember you bashing Todd Compton as "anti". I have no doubt I remember that. Wren is right.

As for the rest of your statement, it makes no sense. You only come across as having a temper tantrum.

I concur with both of your points.

Inconvenient how the Herald deleted all of our past comments...isn't it?

Of course it didn't affect Kent much...after all...he keeps lists. He's probably got most of his 'enemies' past comments bookmarked so he can copy and paste them any time he pleases.

Isn't nice that you and KK and others' veracity and truthfulness are never challenged on this thread, that your truthtelling is accepted as the standard?

That is why when folks read the forums for any amount of time they quickly realize that LVMike, Dubs, WRZ, and others, after a while, are mere shills and willing "to lie for the Lord", tools that believe the means are justified by the end.

KitKat wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubss wrote:

Why, yes, yes you did, Dubss. Anyone can look it up.

Notice to you evangelical and fundamentalists: you are satanic Christians, according to Dubss, who once again has lied.
[autoe] Dubss wrote, Then prove it you lieing fundamentalist Korihor.[] Korihor was a fundamentalist? I am not sure that Dubss really knows what a fundamentalist of any religious stripe truly is.

Anybody, Dubss, can go back and look up what you called Todd Compton, a great LDS writer, because I cited him as an example that good LDS writers do not agree with you. I am sure that JR and Jaye, who never lie, and several others remember it, so, no, podjo, we are not going to play your game and repost it. The evidence has been given and gives away your lies.

You are a liar and have been repeatedly on this forum. You called fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You still stand by that? By the by, do you have Haights and Dames and Lees in your ancestry?

Well if "anyone can do it" then do it, prove yourself to be not the lieing fundamentalist that is just making a libelis comment.

Gotta love the name calling comeing back, podjo. shows you need to also follow your own advice before casting stones.

You remain the joke on this forum, podjo.

You whine about name calling and call fundamentalist Christians "satanic." You say I libel you when the proof is there for anyone, yet you libel everyone with whom you disagree.

Everyone knows what you are about

So come after me, you great UCF joke.


Just as I thought, you can't come up with my quote, because you know... "anybody can do it" How they going to go look when the past forum and all our threads were deleted you idjit???


Typical libel statement by the left wing whacko Fundo's with the satanic obession with others faith.
Dubs, I do remember you bashing Todd Compton as "anti". I have no doubt I remember that. Wren is right.

As for the rest of your statement, it makes no sense. You only come across as having a temper tantrum.

Not true, never said he was anti.