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It is not so much my claims that should be intriguing here...but Joseph's claims of what the Lord told him...the warnings of what would happen should he not repent of his disobedience...and should he continue to follow after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires.

And the promise that the Lord gave him, of being protected by the Lord Himself, should he repent and remain obedient to the commandments and instructions of the Lord.

And it is very possible, that if Joseph's repentance HAD been sincere, AND continuous, he would not have done many of the things which ultimately led to several imprisonments, concluding with his final imprisonment and murder at the hands of the mob...and he would have probably lived a very long and fruitful life...and might have died of old age in his bed, surrounded by his children and grandchildren.

As far as Christ's 12 Apostles...it is true that 10 of them are said to have died martyrs deaths...either by Biblical account, or traditional BELIEFS.

But Judas committed suicide...and John the Beloved is thought to have died a natural death.

Why were these men murdered? The actions of men who teach revolutionary new ideas do seem to bring about certain consequences...don't you think?


Yes, they often do. So why does the way Joseph died have to have anything to do with any "sin" he may have committed?

While we're at it, what did Christ do to deserve being put on trial and condemned to crucifixion?


To put it simply...certain actions have consequences. Certain sins have just punishments.

And certain crimes carry the possible consequence of death. Did Joseph Smith DESERVE to die for his sins, and his crimes?

No.


So, was what happened to him justified, or not?


Yea, good question, he gives us his copy and paste sermon #43 on D&C 3, for the umpteenth time on how Joseph was warned about the wrath of God, blah blah blah, and relates it to Joseph's death, then says he didn't deserve to die?
 
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Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Do you suppose that all dissenters against the Mormon faith were Mormons?


By definition, a dissenter is someone who leaves the faith because of disbelief. so yes.


Dubss that's not true!!

dis-sent-er

One who dissents: political dissenters.
often Dissenter One who refuses to accept the doctrines or usages of an established or a national church.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

It's not necessarily a person who was a member of a church it could be just someone or anyone for that matter who just refuses to accept the doctrines of any church..


So now your saying the church went around killing NON mormons just because they wouldn't believe? If that were the case we'd have quite a story and journal and newspaper articles verify this to be the case.


Not necessarily true.

A prime example is what happened to the Expositor.
Printing presses can be easily destroyed, and the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night.

And those who decided to leave could easily be tracked down and murdered in their sleeping roll at their campsite.

The members who were not so zealous as to actually condone these actions were easily discouraged from talking about it. Fear of reprisal is a powerful motivation.

John D.Lee spoke of knowing of many a man who was 'used up' or 'put quietly out of the way'.

So did others involved with the Danites.

The wilderness was vast Dubya. Lots of places to hide bodies where they'd never be found. And the Danites were cunning in their service to the Church, and in carrying out their assigned assassinations.

As for relatives of men who mysteriously disappeared...they probably figured they had met up with Indians.

That was the common tale put out by Mormons after all...the Indians did it.

And the Mormons controlled everything in those communities. It's not like as if a dissenting member, or gentile was going to get damning evidence or tales through to their relatives via the postal service.


Yes this is true Dubss!!

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Look at the murder of Rosmos Anderson (BTW Here's another Name I found for you Dubss) a Mormon Council voted that Anderson must die for violating his covenants.

His wife was ordered to prepare a suit of clean clothing, in which to have her husband buried, and was informed that he was to be killed for his sins, she being directed to tell those who should enquire after her husband that he had gone to California.

Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed.

Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave.

As soon as he was dead they dressed him in his clean clothes, threw him into the grave and buried him.

They then carried his bloody clothing back to his family, and gave them to his wife to wash, when she was again instructed to say that her husband was in California .... The killing of Anderson was then considered a religious duty and a just act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Atonement

See Dubss!!


So now blood atonement (a person killing themselves for their sins) is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

Your getting weaker by the minute.


Dubss do you really have this bad of Comprehension skills, I know your stupid and immature but you are way off,

I wrote:

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Now were do you get that I said this is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

"LOL" you're so PATHETIC "LOL"


Your original claim dar dar was that the church killed dissenters, when I have asked for names or proof you start going into

Mountain meadows
Missouri war
Hahns Mill
Blood atonement

Which are not examples of people being killed for not believing or leaving the church.

LOL you are so pathetic LOL


Dubss either you missed or just avoided this post

but back on page 291 post # 349700 I gave you a name of a person who was a dissenter and tryed to leave the Church and he was Killed for it..

Heres that post:

POST # 349700
Dubss wrote:
One name for now is all I'm asking for bigdummy, and how, why, what were the curcumstances of this persons death, and proof that it is related to the LDS policy of killing desenters, one name bigdummy, prove it or shut your yapper.


Dubss I have to admit this was very, very hard to find,
most everything I could find on the internet that talked about the killing of dissenters/apostates had no names of who was killed even the diaries I could find on-line have ("today [-blank-] was killed for...."

but I did find one Dissenter/apostate name who was killed and the last names of two out of six non-Mormons who were killed in 1857...

Killed/Murdered Dissenter/apostate William P. Parish of Springville, Utah, early in 1857 because he was leaving the church and moving to California and at about the same time a party of six, including two brothers named Aikin, travelling from San Francisco were arrested as spies, were acquitted, and then were attacked in their camp and murdered, one at least by an assassin who claimed that Young had given him the order;

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Mormons

So You Got Your One Name!! Who's the Dummy

See Dubss it is you who is PATHETIC!!!


I like how they offered no reference, in other words, it flew out of their ass from some anti site. Keep trying bigdummy.


What the Hell you talking about Dubss it is from The 1911 Edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. NOT some anti site. "LOL" Look it up!!


That's my point, you'd think a respected enclyopedia would have references to their information now wouldn't you bigdummy?

Sloppy and poorly written, tinges of personal opinion thrown in the link, I would guess it was a sloppily done post by someone who doesn't have a clue what Mormons are or believe.


"LOL" you're just saying that because you're in denial and such an Idiot Dubss "LOL"

Huh Dubss what is the Encyclopaedia Britannica??

IT'S A REFERENCE BOOK!!!
"LOL" It's where you look to find facts "LOL"

The Encyclopaedia Britannica Eleventh Edition ( 1910-1911 ) is perhaps the most famous edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica . Some of its articles were written by the best-known scholars of the day. The articles are still of value and interest to modern scholars as cultural artifacts of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_Eleventh_Edition
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 7 Months ago Karma: 3  
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Do you suppose that all dissenters against the Mormon faith were Mormons?


By definition, a dissenter is someone who leaves the faith because of disbelief. so yes.


Dubss that's not true!!

dis-sent-er

One who dissents: political dissenters.
often Dissenter One who refuses to accept the doctrines or usages of an established or a national church.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

It's not necessarily a person who was a member of a church it could be just someone or anyone for that matter who just refuses to accept the doctrines of any church..


So now your saying the church went around killing NON mormons just because they wouldn't believe? If that were the case we'd have quite a story and journal and newspaper articles verify this to be the case.


Not necessarily true.

A prime example is what happened to the Expositor.
Printing presses can be easily destroyed, and the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night.

And those who decided to leave could easily be tracked down and murdered in their sleeping roll at their campsite.

The members who were not so zealous as to actually condone these actions were easily discouraged from talking about it. Fear of reprisal is a powerful motivation.

John D.Lee spoke of knowing of many a man who was 'used up' or 'put quietly out of the way'.

So did others involved with the Danites.

The wilderness was vast Dubya. Lots of places to hide bodies where they'd never be found. And the Danites were cunning in their service to the Church, and in carrying out their assigned assassinations.

As for relatives of men who mysteriously disappeared...they probably figured they had met up with Indians.

That was the common tale put out by Mormons after all...the Indians did it.

And the Mormons controlled everything in those communities. It's not like as if a dissenting member, or gentile was going to get damning evidence or tales through to their relatives via the postal service.


Yes this is true Dubss!!

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Look at the murder of Rosmos Anderson (BTW Here's another Name I found for you Dubss) a Mormon Council voted that Anderson must die for violating his covenants.

His wife was ordered to prepare a suit of clean clothing, in which to have her husband buried, and was informed that he was to be killed for his sins, she being directed to tell those who should enquire after her husband that he had gone to California.

Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed.

Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave.

As soon as he was dead they dressed him in his clean clothes, threw him into the grave and buried him.

They then carried his bloody clothing back to his family, and gave them to his wife to wash, when she was again instructed to say that her husband was in California .... The killing of Anderson was then considered a religious duty and a just act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Atonement

See Dubss!!


So now blood atonement (a person killing themselves for their sins) is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

Your getting weaker by the minute.


Dubss do you really have this bad of Comprehension skills, I know your stupid and immature but you are way off,

I wrote:

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Now were do you get that I said this is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

"LOL" you're so PATHETIC "LOL"


Your original claim dar dar was that the church killed dissenters, when I have asked for names or proof you start going into

Mountain meadows
Missouri war
Hahns Mill
Blood atonement

Which are not examples of people being killed for not believing or leaving the church.

LOL you are so pathetic LOL


Dubss either you missed or just avoided this post

but back on page 291 post # 349700 I gave you a name of a person who was a dissenter and tryed to leave the Church and he was Killed for it..

Heres that post:

POST # 349700
Dubss wrote:
One name for now is all I'm asking for bigdummy, and how, why, what were the curcumstances of this persons death, and proof that it is related to the LDS policy of killing desenters, one name bigdummy, prove it or shut your yapper.


Dubss I have to admit this was very, very hard to find,
most everything I could find on the internet that talked about the killing of dissenters/apostates had no names of who was killed even the diaries I could find on-line have ("today [-blank-] was killed for...."

but I did find one Dissenter/apostate name who was killed and the last names of two out of six non-Mormons who were killed in 1857...

Killed/Murdered Dissenter/apostate William P. Parish of Springville, Utah, early in 1857 because he was leaving the church and moving to California and at about the same time a party of six, including two brothers named Aikin, travelling from San Francisco were arrested as spies, were acquitted, and then were attacked in their camp and murdered, one at least by an assassin who claimed that Young had given him the order;

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Mormons

So You Got Your One Name!! Who's the Dummy

See Dubss it is you who is PATHETIC!!!


I like how they offered no reference, in other words, it flew out of their ass from some anti site. Keep trying bigdummy.


What the Hell you talking about Dubss it is from The 1911 Edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. NOT some anti site. "LOL" Look it up!!


That's my point, you'd think a respected enclyopedia would have references to their information now wouldn't you bigdummy?

Sloppy and poorly written, tinges of personal opinion thrown in the link, I would guess it was a sloppily done post by someone who doesn't have a clue what Mormons are or believe.


"LOL" you're just saying that because you're in denial and such an Idiot Dubss "LOL"

Huh Dubss what is the Encyclopaedia Britannica??

IT'S A REFERENCE BOOK!!!
"LOL" It's where you look to find facts "LOL"

The Encyclopaedia Britannica Eleventh Edition ( 1910-1911 ) is perhaps the most famous edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica . Some of its articles were written by the best-known scholars of the day. The articles are still of value and interest to modern scholars as cultural artifacts of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_Eleventh_Edition


"LOL" Boy Dubss your last post sure shows just how intelligent you are "LOL"
 
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"Sloppy", "poorly written", "tinges of personal opinion" all written by "someone who doesn't" truly understand the history of his own church. Yep, Dubss certainly is a shadow of his own reality.
 
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Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Do you suppose that all dissenters against the Mormon faith were Mormons?


By definition, a dissenter is someone who leaves the faith because of disbelief. so yes.


Dubss that's not true!!

dis-sent-er

One who dissents: political dissenters.
often Dissenter One who refuses to accept the doctrines or usages of an established or a national church.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

It's not necessarily a person who was a member of a church it could be just someone or anyone for that matter who just refuses to accept the doctrines of any church..


So now your saying the church went around killing NON mormons just because they wouldn't believe? If that were the case we'd have quite a story and journal and newspaper articles verify this to be the case.


Not necessarily true.

A prime example is what happened to the Expositor.
Printing presses can be easily destroyed, and the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night.

And those who decided to leave could easily be tracked down and murdered in their sleeping roll at their campsite.

The members who were not so zealous as to actually condone these actions were easily discouraged from talking about it. Fear of reprisal is a powerful motivation.

John D.Lee spoke of knowing of many a man who was 'used up' or 'put quietly out of the way'.

So did others involved with the Danites.

The wilderness was vast Dubya. Lots of places to hide bodies where they'd never be found. And the Danites were cunning in their service to the Church, and in carrying out their assigned assassinations.

As for relatives of men who mysteriously disappeared...they probably figured they had met up with Indians.

That was the common tale put out by Mormons after all...the Indians did it.

And the Mormons controlled everything in those communities. It's not like as if a dissenting member, or gentile was going to get damning evidence or tales through to their relatives via the postal service.


Yes this is true Dubss!!

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Look at the murder of Rosmos Anderson (BTW Here's another Name I found for you Dubss) a Mormon Council voted that Anderson must die for violating his covenants.

His wife was ordered to prepare a suit of clean clothing, in which to have her husband buried, and was informed that he was to be killed for his sins, she being directed to tell those who should enquire after her husband that he had gone to California.

Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed.

Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave.

As soon as he was dead they dressed him in his clean clothes, threw him into the grave and buried him.

They then carried his bloody clothing back to his family, and gave them to his wife to wash, when she was again instructed to say that her husband was in California .... The killing of Anderson was then considered a religious duty and a just act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Atonement

See Dubss!!


So now blood atonement (a person killing themselves for their sins) is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

Your getting weaker by the minute.


Dubss do you really have this bad of Comprehension skills, I know your stupid and immature but you are way off,

I wrote:

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Now were do you get that I said this is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

"LOL" you're so PATHETIC "LOL"


Your original claim dar dar was that the church killed dissenters, when I have asked for names or proof you start going into

Mountain meadows
Missouri war
Hahns Mill
Blood atonement

Which are not examples of people being killed for not believing or leaving the church.

LOL you are so pathetic LOL


Dubss either you missed or just avoided this post

but back on page 291 post # 349700 I gave you a name of a person who was a dissenter and tryed to leave the Church and he was Killed for it..

Heres that post:

POST # 349700
Dubss wrote:
One name for now is all I'm asking for bigdummy, and how, why, what were the curcumstances of this persons death, and proof that it is related to the LDS policy of killing desenters, one name bigdummy, prove it or shut your yapper.


Dubss I have to admit this was very, very hard to find,
most everything I could find on the internet that talked about the killing of dissenters/apostates had no names of who was killed even the diaries I could find on-line have ("today [-blank-] was killed for...."

but I did find one Dissenter/apostate name who was killed and the last names of two out of six non-Mormons who were killed in 1857...

Killed/Murdered Dissenter/apostate William P. Parish of Springville, Utah, early in 1857 because he was leaving the church and moving to California and at about the same time a party of six, including two brothers named Aikin, travelling from San Francisco were arrested as spies, were acquitted, and then were attacked in their camp and murdered, one at least by an assassin who claimed that Young had given him the order;

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Mormons

So You Got Your One Name!! Who's the Dummy

See Dubss it is you who is PATHETIC!!!


I like how they offered no reference, in other words, it flew out of their ass from some anti site. Keep trying bigdummy.


What the Hell you talking about Dubss it is from The 1911 Edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. NOT some anti site. "LOL" Look it up!!


That's my point, you'd think a respected enclyopedia would have references to their information now wouldn't you bigdummy?

Sloppy and poorly written, tinges of personal opinion thrown in the link, I would guess it was a sloppily done post by someone who doesn't have a clue what Mormons are or believe.


"LOL" you're just saying that because you're in denial and such an Idiot Dubss "LOL"

Huh Dubss what is the Encyclopaedia Britannica??

IT'S A REFERENCE BOOK!!!
"LOL" It's where you look to find facts "LOL"

The Encyclopaedia Britannica Eleventh Edition ( 1910-1911 ) is perhaps the most famous edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica . Some of its articles were written by the best-known scholars of the day. The articles are still of value and interest to modern scholars as cultural artifacts of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_Eleventh_Edition


Listen you idjit, even Encyclopedias get their information from somewhere, they don't just pull things out of their butt like you and the anti's do, that this article has NO references is telling, and the anti slant in the article is another.
 
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 7 Months ago Karma: 25  
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubss wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Do you suppose that all dissenters against the Mormon faith were Mormons?


By definition, a dissenter is someone who leaves the faith because of disbelief. so yes.


Dubss that's not true!!

dis-sent-er

One who dissents: political dissenters.
often Dissenter One who refuses to accept the doctrines or usages of an established or a national church.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

It's not necessarily a person who was a member of a church it could be just someone or anyone for that matter who just refuses to accept the doctrines of any church..


So now your saying the church went around killing NON mormons just because they wouldn't believe? If that were the case we'd have quite a story and journal and newspaper articles verify this to be the case.


Not necessarily true.

A prime example is what happened to the Expositor.
Printing presses can be easily destroyed, and the dissenters writing the dissenting articles can easily be cowed into silence, or into packing up and leaving, or else they simply disappear one dark night.

And those who decided to leave could easily be tracked down and murdered in their sleeping roll at their campsite.

The members who were not so zealous as to actually condone these actions were easily discouraged from talking about it. Fear of reprisal is a powerful motivation.

John D.Lee spoke of knowing of many a man who was 'used up' or 'put quietly out of the way'.

So did others involved with the Danites.

The wilderness was vast Dubya. Lots of places to hide bodies where they'd never be found. And the Danites were cunning in their service to the Church, and in carrying out their assigned assassinations.

As for relatives of men who mysteriously disappeared...they probably figured they had met up with Indians.

That was the common tale put out by Mormons after all...the Indians did it.

And the Mormons controlled everything in those communities. It's not like as if a dissenting member, or gentile was going to get damning evidence or tales through to their relatives via the postal service.


Yes this is true Dubss!!

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Look at the murder of Rosmos Anderson (BTW Here's another Name I found for you Dubss) a Mormon Council voted that Anderson must die for violating his covenants.

His wife was ordered to prepare a suit of clean clothing, in which to have her husband buried, and was informed that he was to be killed for his sins, she being directed to tell those who should enquire after her husband that he had gone to California.

Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed.

Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave.

As soon as he was dead they dressed him in his clean clothes, threw him into the grave and buried him.

They then carried his bloody clothing back to his family, and gave them to his wife to wash, when she was again instructed to say that her husband was in California .... The killing of Anderson was then considered a religious duty and a just act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Atonement

See Dubss!!


So now blood atonement (a person killing themselves for their sins) is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

Your getting weaker by the minute.


Dubss do you really have this bad of Comprehension skills, I know your stupid and immature but you are way off,

I wrote:

Here is a example of the church telling the relatives to keep their mouth shut

Now were do you get that I said this is an example of Mormons killing dissenters?

"LOL" you're so PATHETIC "LOL"


Your original claim dar dar was that the church killed dissenters, when I have asked for names or proof you start going into

Mountain meadows
Missouri war
Hahns Mill
Blood atonement

Which are not examples of people being killed for not believing or leaving the church.

LOL you are so pathetic LOL


Dubss either you missed or just avoided this post

but back on page 291 post # 349700 I gave you a name of a person who was a dissenter and tryed to leave the Church and he was Killed for it..

Heres that post:

POST # 349700
Dubss wrote:
One name for now is all I'm asking for bigdummy, and how, why, what were the curcumstances of this persons death, and proof that it is related to the LDS policy of killing desenters, one name bigdummy, prove it or shut your yapper.


Dubss I have to admit this was very, very hard to find,
most everything I could find on the internet that talked about the killing of dissenters/apostates had no names of who was killed even the diaries I could find on-line have ("today [-blank-] was killed for...."

but I did find one Dissenter/apostate name who was killed and the last names of two out of six non-Mormons who were killed in 1857...

Killed/Murdered Dissenter/apostate William P. Parish of Springville, Utah, early in 1857 because he was leaving the church and moving to California and at about the same time a party of six, including two brothers named Aikin, travelling from San Francisco were arrested as spies, were acquitted, and then were attacked in their camp and murdered, one at least by an assassin who claimed that Young had given him the order;

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Mormons

So You Got Your One Name!! Who's the Dummy

See Dubss it is you who is PATHETIC!!!


I like how they offered no reference, in other words, it flew out of their ass from some anti site. Keep trying bigdummy.


What the Hell you talking about Dubss it is from The 1911 Edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. NOT some anti site. "LOL" Look it up!!


That's my point, you'd think a respected enclyopedia would have references to their information now wouldn't you bigdummy?

Sloppy and poorly written, tinges of personal opinion thrown in the link, I would guess it was a sloppily done post by someone who doesn't have a clue what Mormons are or believe.


"LOL" you're just saying that because you're in denial and such an Idiot Dubss "LOL"

Huh Dubss what is the Encyclopaedia Britannica??

IT'S A REFERENCE BOOK!!!
"LOL" It's where you look to find facts "LOL"

The Encyclopaedia Britannica Eleventh Edition ( 1910-1911 ) is perhaps the most famous edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica . Some of its articles were written by the best-known scholars of the day. The articles are still of value and interest to modern scholars as cultural artifacts of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_Eleventh_Edition


Listen you idjit, even Encyclopedias get their information from somewhere, they don't just pull things out of their butt like you and the anti's do, that this article has NO references is telling, and the anti slant in the article is another.

Of course they get their information from somewhere. All information has to come from somewhere. Where do you get your information? From somewhere, of course. What an idiotic statement.

If information from anywhere doesn't say what you believe, then you instantly label it "anti".
 
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