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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speech 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speechflawed at core 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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SilentReader wrote: RogerWilco wrote: SilentReader wrote: I'm still waiting for your response on the indicted Rezko-Obama, admitted-terrorist Ayers-Obama and anti-semite anti-America anti-White Pastor Wright-Obama dubious connections, since he's your Candidate-without-scrutiny for President.
First of all, I'm not the one who is trying to portray guilt-by-campaign-donation, you are. That is why I asked YOU whether you think Bush is also guilty for accepting campaign contributions from Rezko? In other words, do you have one standard, or two?
One.
Then where is your condemnation of Bush for accepting Rezko's campaign donations? I'm waiting.
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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speech 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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You'll have to excuse RushReader, Roger. She is in an state of shock about the McCain and Keating scandal. Apparently, she knew nothing about it. She is presently awaiting further instructions from her handlers. We should hear more silliness from her shortly, though I doubt you will get an answer to your question.
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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speechflawed at core 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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John McCain's house may have "plenty of windows to break" but he's never sat on a board and sook the support of an admitted terrorist who bombed the Pentagon and he's never sat in the pews of a Church where the pastor has advocated "damning America" for twenty years and attended the Million Man march where Farrakhan has advocated White genocide.
In regard to Keating Five, McCain has admitted and, more importantly recognized, his lack of judgment. He went as far as to say that he winces when he remembers it.
In regard to his relationship with Ms. Iseman, the lobbyist, McCain says he didn't have a relationship with her. I believe him. After all, he's admitted pretty much everything else, including his cheating on his first wife, and it's been vetted in his last campaign for President.
Hey, John McCain wasn't my first choice for President, although I'm a hundred percent with him on the war against Jihadism and winning in Iraq, on curbing spending and earmarks, on honesty, on serving his country with honor (when he could have come back from Vietnam earlier but chose to come back on longevity), and now on keeping the Bush tax cuts permanent and securing the borders, on fortitude, and on the fact that he's earned and fought the good fight for the job; the President of the greatest country in the world. America. And, who could know that more than John McCain?
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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speech 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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SilentReader wrote:John McCain's house may have "plenty of windows to break" but he's never sat on a board and sook the support of an admitted terrorist who bombed the Pentagon and he's never sat in the pews of a Church where the pastor has advocated "damning America" for twenty years and attended the Million Man march where Farrakhan has advocated White genocide.More rumor, innuendo, and "guilt by association." Board Members in a business seldom know each other prior to their appointment; they are chosen by the Chairman of the Board (and voted on by stockholders, which is usually no more than a rubber stamp approval) of the company for a number of reasons. Business acumen, relationships in the industry, name recognition, etc. They don't meet that often and often have no dealings with each other outside the board room. Unless you have allegations of him doing something illegal or unethical while on that board, you have nothing but more rumor and innuendo. And I noticed you said Obama sat in the pews "where" his pastor made the remarks. A far cry from saying he sat there "while" the remarks were made, which was not the case. Good choice of words for one like yourself who likes to use rumor and innuendo and "guilt by association" tactics. McCain, on the other hand, had a long term relationship with Keating. "...Gray testified that several U.S. senators had approached him and requested that he ease off on the Lincoln investigation. It came out that these senators had been beneficiaries of $300,000 (collective total) in campaign contributions from Keating. McCain received $112,000 by 1987 from Keating and Keating's relatives and employees to McCain's Senate campaign, more than any of the other Senators. In October 1989 The Arizona Republic reported that in addition to campaign contributions, McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental Corporation (parent of Lincoln) jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain also did not pay Keating for some of the trips until years after they were taken, after he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Lincoln Savings and Loan's collapse is said to have cost taxpayers $3.4 billion
This allegation set off a series of investigations by the California government, the United States Department of Justice, and the Senate Ethics Committee. The ethics committee's investigation focused on five senators: Alan Cranston (D-CA); Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ); John Glenn (D-OH); John McCain (R-AZ); and Donald W. Riegle, Jr. (D-MI), who became known as the "Keating Five".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_FiveWhy do you not apply the same "guilt by association" standard to McCain that you apply to Obama and Clinton? Perhaps you are not old enough to remember the S&L scandal and bailout, but I am. There were fears it might cascade through the whole financial system and bring the whole economy down, and but for the government bailout (paid for by US taxpayers) it might have. Keating was one on the main players. As it was, it still led to the 1990-1991 recession. "The Lincoln Savings led to the Keating five political scandal, in which five U.S. senators were implicated in an influence-peddling scheme. It was named for Charles Keating, who headed Lincoln saving and made $300,000 as political contributions to them in the 1980s. Three of those senators - Alan Cranston, Don Riegle, and Dennis DeConcini - found their political careers cut short as a result. Two others - John Glenn and John McCain - were rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. John McCain is a Republican candidate in the 2008 U.S. presidential election.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_Loan_crisisIn regard to Keating Five, McCain has admitted and, more importantly recognized, his lack of judgment. He went as far as to say that he winces when he remembers it.Yes, I am sure Nixon winced when he remembered Watergate, too.  And that makes it better in your eyes? Hey, I'm all for forgiveness, but you are only for partisan forgiveness. You forgive Republicans, but want to condemn Democrats till their dying day. Why is that? In regard to his relationship with Ms. Iseman, the lobbyist, McCain says he didn't have a relationship with her. I believe him.Of course you do. You believe anything a conservative says. You even believed the convicted felon Scooter Libby, Larry Craig, Alberto Gonzales, Donald Rumsfeld, and you continue to believe Bush and Cheney. 'Nuff said on that one. Hey, John McCain wasn't my first choice for PresidentBoy, that's an understatement. What you leave out is that he was not your second or third choice, either. Remember this little gem? SilentReader wrote:McCain will not win. We, the conservatives, won't let him. For if he were to win it would destroy the Republican Party and everything it has stood for over the many years.Man, I love that quote. A real RushReader classic. 
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Re:RICH LOWRY: Obama's speechflawed at core 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Obama's friendly association with Bill Ayers is bringing further astonishing revelations that will make this Candidate-without-scrutiny be under further scrutiny before this long fight for the Democratic nomination is over. Earlier under this thread, after following the money, I too alluded to Obama's connections with Khalidi through the Woods Fund. This is disgraceful. Of course, the media will not elaborate on this because they're in Obama's back pocket. They will live to regret it when ultimately they will lose. Yet again. As I have said before, the Liberal Left sure knows how to pick 'em. Obama Connection to Terrorists Revealed by Talk Show Host By Jim Kouri, 3/24/2008 9:02:29 AM
There is a far-reaching scandal brewing for presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, thanks to a radio talk show host based in Oregon. Syndicated talk host Laurie Roth's revelations make the news story about Obama's relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor look like child's play.
A top official at the Pentagon during former-President George H. W. Bush's Administration and a former CIA intelligence officer maintain that Barack Obama and former Weather Underground honcho William Ayers funneled money to Professor Rashid Khalidi, a known terrorist sympathizer.
Khalidi serves on the faculty of Columbia University in New York and is best known as the professor who invited Iranian President Ahmedinejad to visit Columbia University after he finished his speech at the United Nations. According to confidential sources, Khalidi has direct ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), a group on the US State Department's list of known terrorist groups.
"One source for this information was once a top military figure in the 1990s. He doesn't take making allegations lightly. If he says something happened, believe me, it happened," said syndicated radio talk show host Laurie Roth - http://www.therothshow.com
"Another source is a former agent for the Central Intelligence Agency, who is an expert in counterterrorism," said Roth, who broke the story on her show Friday night.
"I certainly don't want to demonize someone because they are a woman, black or liberal running for President. I love the idea that in our culture, a black and woman can now run. However, it does matter to me with any candidate, their consistency with good judgment, their voting record, their association with people with questionable backgrounds and commitment to our country," she said during her show.
Here are the connections as described by very reliable sources, who possess impressive military, national security and intelligence backgrounds:
Allison Davis, who hired the young Obama into his small, Chicago law firm Davis, Miner, and Barnhill in 1993, left the firm in late 1999-2000 and became a housing developer. Davis went into business with Tony Rezko, the indicted businessman who's scheduled to go on trial for corruption in Illinois, and who was a major fundraiser for Obama.
Davis met Rezko when he was a client of Davis, Miner, and Barnhill. Rezko is currently under indictment in Illinois for demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state government business contracts under Governor Blagojevich. Obama was identified as one of the politicians cited in the indictment as having received political contributions from Rezko out of his kickback funds.
Tony Rezko hosted fundraising events for Obama in his home and was on Obama's US Senate campaign finance committee which collected $14 million for his campaign against conservative Alan Keyes, an African-American who served as an Ambassador during the Reagan Administration. In order to avoid a scandal during his presidential campaign, Obama returned $85,000 that Rezko and his family had donated to him.
In early 2000, while Obama served as a state senator in Illinois, he also sat on the board of the nonprofit Woods Fund. The Woods Fund is a Chicago-based foundation that claims its primary mission is to make financial grants in order to increase and/or create opportunities for disadvantaged people and low-income communities.
The chairman of the Woods fund board in 2000 was Howard Stanback, who like Obama also had connections to Davis, according to the reliable sources.
Davis submitted a grant request to the Woods Foundation for a $1 million investment in his development partnership, Neighborhood Rejuvenation LP, that would be used to finance low-income senior-citizen housing. Under normal circumstances, a board member is supposed to recuse himself or herself from decisions where they have a business or personal relationship.
Obama, who did not recuse himself, voted to approve Davis' grant request. Stanback, on the other hand, abstained from voting. The housing project, which also received a $5.7 million loan from the city of Chicago, in turn donated almost $70,000 in political contributions to Obama's presidential campaign.
In the past, Rezko gave Obama -- who served as an Illinois State Senator -- his first two political contributions in 1995, $1,000 each from two of his companies. In 1998, State Senator Obama wrote letters to city and state officials urging them to fund a Davis-Rezko housing project. It was an obvious quid pro quo arrangement.
Another major fundraiser for Obama is William Ayers, who also sat on the board of the Woods Fund with Obama and is a professor at the University of Chicago.
Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernadine Dohrn, was an active member of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing group that advocated violence against the United States. Both Ayers and Dohrn went "underground" in 1970 after others in the group accidentally detonated a bomb in a Greenwich Village (New York City) townhouse. The blast killed three of the group's members including Ayers' girlfriend at the time.
While Ayers and Dohrn were hiding from law enforcement, the Weather Underground participated in the bombings of the US Capital, the Pentagon and a State Department building. In 1981 Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in to federal authorities, but all charges were dropped as a result of alleged "government legal misconduct." In his 2001 memoir, Ayers wrote, "I don't regret setting the bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
Ayers and Dohrn are known to have held at least one fundraiser for Barack Obama in their Chicago home.
During Obama's last year on the board of The Woods Fund (2002), he participated in awarding grants, including a $70,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, a Chicago-based group founded by Rashid and Mona Khalidi.
In another suspected quid pro quo arrangement similar to those with Ayers and Rezko, Rashid Khalidi also held a fundraising event in his home for Barack Obama.
In the Middle East, Rashid Khalidi was known as a man to be reckoned with. From 1972 through 1983, Khalidi was the director in Beirut of the official Palestinian press agency, FAFA. His wife worked there as well.
According to sources, when the Khalidi's left Chicago for Columbia University in New York, Rashid was honored with the Edward Said Chair in Arab Studies at that Ivy League university. Their goodbye party in Chicago included testimonials from Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.
"What other fund raising connections does Obama have? How many times can you look the other way in church and with fund raising situations with more than questionable people?" asked Ms. Roth.
"We all make mistakes in judgment with people and their backgrounds sometimes, but usually we learn and pick better friends and associates. How come Obama seems to have continued hanging around more than questionable characters with anti American backgrounds and some with criminal behaviors? Now one is being indicted, Tony Rezco, who raised a ton of money for Obama," she said.
"As President, how much would he look the other way when dealing with national security and dangers to our country? How much would he listen passively to terrorist leaders then lecture us on our ugly American status? This kind of change is not what our country needs!" added the popular talk show host, whose show is syndicated by USA Radio Network
In a related story, during an interview on Thursday morning (March 20) with Black Panther leader Malik Zulu Shabazz, Fox News Channel viewers learned that Shabazz' group endorsed and supported Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States. Even on Fox -- an organization wrongly accused of being "conservative" -- the interviewers were careful in their questioning of Shabazz, a recognized racist and anti-American radical.
The New Black Panther Party leader proudly announced on Fox News that his organization endorsed and Obama for President.
"While some people may say that Barack Obama has no control over who endorses him, he should have control over what endorsements are posted on his websites," said Laurie Roth, who, besides hosting a popular talk show, is a regular columnist for NewswithViews.com
"The endorsement of the New Black Panther Party was posted on Barack Obama's website. Why was this tolerated unless Barack Obama wanted their endorsement? If he does not want their endorsement, how much control over his staff is he going to have once he's elected President?" asks Mike Baker.
The New Black Panther Party is openly anti-White, anti-Jewish, and anti-America. After Obama's Tuesday damage-control speech, his campaign pulled the Black Panthers' endorsement story off their website.
It's also been reported that Obama's campaign staff was allowed to fly a Che Guevara flag inside his office, according to NewsMax
"Do these revelations demonstrate a pattern of Barack Obama's judgment? If so, then I do not want him dealing with world leaders. I do not want these groups having access to the White House. Do you?" asks the New Jersey-based political strategist.
"It appears the Barack Obama water carriers within the mainstream news media are on the job as usual -- ignoring another story that has the alternative media on the Internet buzzing: Obama's embracement of an endorsement by the radical, racist organization," Baker added.To contact Laurie Roth telephone 509-701-1884 www.therothshow.com Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). His book Assume The Position is available at Amazon.Com. Kouri's own Web site is located at http://jimkouri.usHawaiiReporter.com reports the real news, and prints all editorials submitted, even if they do not represent the viewpoint of the editors, as long as they are written clearly. Send editorials to
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