Just Reading wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:


It's so simple, dubs. PV said that the only time you do not make a mistake is when you post a one-word sentence. I'll go further and say that's the only time you don't make a mistake grammar wise. You can still misspell a one word sentence.

You even asked Betz: Really? You think that's a correctly worded? Now really. Is THAT correctly worded?

Betz and I got exactly what PV meant. As many of us have told you, you really do have a big problem with comprehension. And it's not even funny.

Ahhh, I got it now, but, it is still a very poorly worded post.

"It is only in a post of one word that you don't have any errors."

should have been...

The only time you don't make errors dubbs is when you post one word sentences.

I'm not Einstein but I know that was a poorly worded sentence, and mine was much better.

no it is not poorly worded, the only error was that PV didn't put a comma, it should have read like this:

It is only in a post of one word, that you don't have any errors.

So don't be so quick to point out others.


Actually, I believe PV's sentence was correct "as is". He could have also said. . ."It is only in a post containing one word that you don't have any errors" OR "It is only in one-word posts that you don't have any errors."

Moving on. . .I agree with JLD's post.

I know your post was done over 2 weeks ago, but I just can't wait until I get to the end of the thread to comment. You keep saying that the LDS Church continues a practice to deliberatly hurt and offend people. That is so inaccurate and untrue! Temple marriages are a very sacred and wonderful part of our doctrine. They are meant to show the deep love Heavenly Father has for us, a deep respect for a couple wanting to be married in the Temple. A Temple marriage is NOT a REQUIREMENT. It is a choice made by 2 consenting adults. A choice your daughter made. Anyone can, and many do, get married in their homes, gardens, reception centers, Chapels, etc. My son and his wife were married by our Bishop at Bridal Veil Falls in Provo Canyon and it was a beautiful wedding. Another son was married in our Chapel, our third son was married in the old BYU Library, just after it was restored. Our daughter was married in the Temple. Her husbands parents were not able to go inside, but understood fully the reasons why. I'm sure it pained them, but they are both LDS and had known for years that their son would marry in the Temple. No one is forced to marry in the Temple.

When I was married, 43 years ago, I lived in NY State at the time. We were going to be married in our local Church then Honeymoon to SLC to be sealed. That was how it was done before we got Temples in the East. About 6 weeks before the Wedding, I flew to Utah to meet my husbands family. I went to a Bishops interview with my future husband and was told as we were both right there in the Temple District we would have to have our marriage in the Temple then or wait 1 year to be sealed. All of our invitations were already mailed out, my parents could not afford to fly out and my Father had not been a member long enough to recieve the proper priesthood to enter the Temple. I agreed to the change, but a few days later said an emphatic NO WAY. I was my Mothers only daughter and there was no way I could cheat her out of seeing her daughter wed. So, for the sake of my parents, and the love and respect I had for them, I went ahead with the civil ceremony in NYS and went to the Temple to be sealed 18 months later, to my husband and my parents. We all have to make our own decisions for our own reasons and then accept the responsibility and consequences of doing so.

I can't pretend to know how you must have been hurt and I am sorry for some of the rude comments you have gotten from this forum. Their are those here that are exactly the type to give the Church a bad name. But you know them, they are in all religions, all races and all colors. You have also been shown a great deal of understanding, compassion and patience. I know you do not want to see that it was your daughter and her husband that chose to have a ceremony that they knew you could not attend. But, please know, they did not do it to hurt you or anyone else.

One more thing, I am sure that I am not the only one that has been to many other Church services, From Jewish, to Catholic, to Lutheran, Seventh Day Adventist, Church of the Nazarene, etc. I grew up in an area of many diverse religions and associated with people from all of those religions and more. I would never say anything against any of them, bash them, make fun of them or try to make their members out to be idiots or members of a cult just because they believe differently than I do.

OK, 2 more things I was not happy with the postings of the people wearing the Temple Garments, over and OVER again. Not because I am ashamed of them or have anything to hide, but because I know it was done irrevrently and were put out for people to make fun of and laugh at. Would that have been done with a Rosary? or a Turban?

I hope that you can heal from your experience, and learn from it. But it maked no sense to blame the LDS Church or try to get them to change their policy. It is not a policy of exclusion, and not a requirment.

mykidsgramma wrote:
I know your post was done over 2 weeks ago, but I just can't wait until I get to the end of the thread to comment. You keep saying that the LDS Church continues a practice to deliberatly hurt and offend people. That is so inaccurate and untrue! Temple marriages are a very sacred and wonderful part of our doctrine. They are meant to show the deep love Heavenly Father has for us, a deep respect for a couple wanting to be married in the Temple. A Temple marriage is NOT a REQUIREMENT. It is a choice made by 2 consenting adults. A choice your daughter made. Anyone can, and many do, get married in their homes, gardens, reception centers, Chapels, etc. My son and his wife were married by our Bishop at Bridal Veil Falls in Provo Canyon and it was a beautiful wedding. Another son was married in our Chapel, our third son was married in the old BYU Library, just after it was restored. Our daughter was married in the Temple. Her husbands parents were not able to go inside, but understood fully the reasons why. I'm sure it pained them, but they are both LDS and had known for years that their son would marry in the Temple. No one is forced to marry in the Temple.

When I was married, 43 years ago, I lived in NY State at the time. We were going to be married in our local Church then Honeymoon to SLC to be sealed. That was how it was done before we got Temples in the East. About 6 weeks before the Wedding, I flew to Utah to meet my husbands family. I went to a Bishops interview with my future husband and was told as we were both right there in the Temple District we would have to have our marriage in the Temple then or wait 1 year to be sealed. All of our invitations were already mailed out, my parents could not afford to fly out and my Father had not been a member long enough to recieve the proper priesthood to enter the Temple. I agreed to the change, but a few days later said an emphatic NO WAY. I was my Mothers only daughter and there was no way I could cheat her out of seeing her daughter wed. So, for the sake of my parents, and the love and respect I had for them, I went ahead with the civil ceremony in NYS and went to the Temple to be sealed 18 months later, to my husband and my parents. We all have to make our own decisions for our own reasons and then accept the responsibility and consequences of doing so.

I can't pretend to know how you must have been hurt and I am sorry for some of the rude comments you have gotten from this forum. Their are those here that are exactly the type to give the Church a bad name. But you know them, they are in all religions, all races and all colors. You have also been shown a great deal of understanding, compassion and patience. I know you do not want to see that it was your daughter and her husband that chose to have a ceremony that they knew you could not attend. But, please know, they did not do it to hurt you or anyone else.

One more thing, I am sure that I am not the only one that has been to many other Church services, From Jewish, to Catholic, to Lutheran, Seventh Day Adventist, Church of the Nazarene, etc. I grew up in an area of many diverse religions and associated with people from all of those religions and more. I would never say anything against any of them, bash them, make fun of them or try to make their members out to be idiots or members of a cult just because they believe differently than I do.

OK, 2 more things I was not happy with the postings of the people wearing the Temple Garments, over and OVER again. Not because I am ashamed of them or have anything to hide, but because I know it was done irrevrently and were put out for people to make fun of and laugh at. Would that have been done with a Rosary? or a Turban?

I hope that you can heal from your experience, and learn from it. But it maked no sense to blame the LDS Church or try to get them to change their policy. It is not a policy of exclusion, and not a requirment.

Wow, I love this post. I think there are some very good points here.

Thank you, JLD, I guess I came in on the ned of it, but I just had to speak my mind. As I read on, I saw that others said much of what I did. I really feel for Life Rocks, but not in the way you might think. He seems to be very bitter, frustrated, miserable, unhappy, and is blaming it on everything and everyone. It would be so much better for him if he could focus on his feelings and why he feels that way and come to terms with himself and his life. He is a sad soul.

mykidsgramma wrote:
Thank you, JLD, I guess I came in on the ned of it, but I just had to speak my mind. As I read on, I saw that others said much of what I did. I really feel for Life Rocks, but not in the way you might think. He seems to be very bitter, frustrated, miserable, unhappy, and is blaming it on everything and everyone. It would be so much better for him if he could focus on his feelings and why he feels that way and come to terms with himself and his life. He is a sad soul.

If he dosen't realize it yet, he needs to know, his family and wife are about sick of him also, unless he changes, he's going to run himself out of the lives of those he loves.

Dubbs about LR: If he dosen't realize it yet, he needs to know, his family and wife are about sick of him also, unless he changes, he's going to run himself out of the lives of those he loves.

This is an accurate description for Dubbs. He is the active LDS equivalent of LR.