Jaye wrote:
"What the heck could an exchange of vows hurt?" ]

I am insinuating nothing G.R.I.T.S., and I see no mockery in allowing newlyweds to perform a small ring ceremony and exchange of vows for non-member parent's sake.


Elder Cree-L Kofford's words:

4. The Brethren counsel Church members not to perform a marriage ceremony following the temple sealing. Occasionally, you’ll find a young couple who will want to do a mock ceremony “so my mother won’t feel left out.� But that makes a mockery out of your temple sealing.


Thank you for posting that article from Brother Kofford, Jaye. I remember reading it in the Ensign. It was very enjoyable and informative. Brother Kofford said it is a mockery to exchange vows civilly after being sealed. An exchange of rings, with no vows spoken, seems to be OK.

And, come on, Jaye. . .I don't claim to know everything about the gospel. In your posts sometimes, you give the impression that you DO know all, and when questioned (by me of late), you raise your voice in your writings. This reminds me of my dad. . .When we disagreed with him and tried to convey our opinions and feelings, he would get angry, and his voice would get louder and louder, refuting us until he couldn't hear us talking anymore. Then, in essence, he would say "We're done here; I've spoken." An occasional challenge is good. We don't always like them, but they serve a purpose. If anything, Jaye, we will keep each other on our toes. I can tell you don't like to be "shut down" when you have an opinion on the forums. . .neither do I.

Just Reading wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Girl Raised in the South wrote:
Life Rocks wrote:
I wasn't planning to post any more on this subject here, but something came up.

For those who may be wondering, I checked with a woman in a comparative world religion class who is Muslim and asked her, "If you were getting married as a Muslim to another Muslim and wanted to invite a non-Muslim, could they attend your wedding."

To which she replied, "Why yes, of course."

So I've talked to a Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist and Muslim and all say non-members are permitted to attend their weddings...except for the Mormon Temple wedding.

Hmmmmmm.

Welcome back, LifeRocks. Of course they would invite non-members to their weddings because it is permitted in their religions. Every religion has their own unique qualifications. We're not like everyone else.

Isn't that the truth!!!

as soon as you learn about the Mormons special underwear you know they are different "LOL"

http://packham.n4m.org/garment.jpg

Let alone the cloths they wear in the temmple

Unbelievable, you have no respect for me I know big dummmy, but at least have some respect for Jaye and Kitkat's beliefs, Your a peice of scumb white trash dude.

first off, kiss my ass Dubbs

second dumb ass you should take the picture of the temple garments out of your post, talk about a dummy...!!!


You don't even have respect for people you call your friends bigdummy. YOu must be such a loser in real life.

Dubbs My friends know I respect them, You on the other hand don't respect anyone, not even your own wife.

Jaye and Kitkat, and whoever else who's LDS who saw these and said nothing are a bunch of cowards, I reported it and hopefully you are banned for it.

"LOL" you can't get banned for posting temple garments Dubbs "LOL"

Boy you think you and your Church has some kind of special powers over everyone else "LOL"


Ever going to answer when you got a bachelors? In between your eight zillion jobs and claims of no school in the past, now you claim you went to USC law school, but are not a lawyer? But a paralegal? So you went to law school to become a paralegal?

Dubbs I started law school then had to drop out Due to my moving and Divorce and children, and when did I claim no school?? your an Idiot...

BTW how come you won't answer if you graduated high school Dubbs, or what school you went too???

Beauty school dropout is more like it. So you went to law school, didn't finish, but had time to go back to become a paralegal? Not buying your stories Bigdummy.


If I got a Bachelors Bigdummy, as I said I did from BYU, the intelligent and logical would assume that I graduated High school you tard, as that is a prerequisite to get into college, course someone who's never been to college would not have known that would they big?? Busted!!

As far as where I went to HS, none of our business.

"LOL" this is the first time I've heard that you have a Bachelors degree from BYU Dubbs,
I didn't know that and that's why I asked if you had even graduated High school.

again Dubbs your presumption's make me laugh,

"LOL" Busted "LOL"

How can I be busted if I haven't lied "LOL"

"LOL" presumption's, "LOL"


I have mentioned many times I went to BYU, you on the other hand have never mentioned college, now your claiming a bachelors, and then going on to Law school, but then you stopped, went back to school to be a paralegal? Seems like an odd move for someone who has those degrees, that's why I"m calling BS on your obvious BS.

Just Reading wrote:
[b]One more thing, Not knowing what to expect in the Temple was one of the reasons I started looking into the Churches past,

I do not like getting into something I know nothing about and I sure didn't want to believe all the rumor's
also I'm sorry but I will not wear those underwear, but that's just me....


If you don't understand posting someones underwear online that they consider sacred is not respectful, your an even bigger idiot than I ever imagined.

And if you didn't know what to expect going into the temple, then you didn't take the temple prep class or as questions, which is what any normal intelligent person does. Shows again, you are just not that bright.

Girl Raised in the South wrote:
Jaye wrote:
"What the heck could an exchange of vows hurt?" ]

I am insinuating nothing G.R.I.T.S., and I see no mockery in allowing newlyweds to perform a small ring ceremony and exchange of vows for non-member parent's sake.


Elder Cree-L Kofford's words:

4. The Brethren counsel Church members not to perform a marriage ceremony following the temple sealing. Occasionally, you’ll find a young couple who will want to do a mock ceremony “so my mother won’t feel left out.� But that makes a mockery out of your temple sealing.


Thank you for posting that article from Brother Kofford, Jaye. I remember reading it in the Ensign. It was very enjoyable and informative. Brother Kofford said it is a mockery to exchange vows civilly after being sealed. An exchange of rings, with no vows spoken, seems to be OK.

And, come on, Jaye. . .I don't claim to know everything about the gospel. In your posts sometimes, you give the impression that you DO know all, and when questioned (by me of late), you raise your voice in your writings. This reminds me of my dad. . .When we disagreed with him and tried to convey our opinions and feelings, he would get angry, and his voice would get louder and louder, refuting us until he couldn't hear us talking anymore. Then, in essence, he would say "We're done here; I've spoken." An occasional challenge is good. We don't always like them, but they serve a purpose. If anything, Jaye, we will keep each other on our toes. I can tell you don't like to be "shut down" when you have an opinion on the forums. . .neither do I.


That's how I picture Jaye in real life. A tyrant with a pretty bad temper.

Notice he never speaks of grandkids or friends, even he and his wife seem to have seperate lives, Makes one wonder what he's really like in real life, doubt it's much like he presents here. .

Dubbs wrote:
Girl Raised in the South wrote:
Jaye wrote:
"What the heck could an exchange of vows hurt?" ]

I am insinuating nothing G.R.I.T.S., and I see no mockery in allowing newlyweds to perform a small ring ceremony and exchange of vows for non-member parent's sake.


Elder Cree-L Kofford's words:

4. The Brethren counsel Church members not to perform a marriage ceremony following the temple sealing. Occasionally, you’ll find a young couple who will want to do a mock ceremony “so my mother won’t feel left out.� But that makes a mockery out of your temple sealing.


Thank you for posting that article from Brother Kofford, Jaye. I remember reading it in the Ensign. It was very enjoyable and informative. Brother Kofford said it is a mockery to exchange vows civilly after being sealed. An exchange of rings, with no vows spoken, seems to be OK.

And, come on, Jaye. . .I don't claim to know everything about the gospel. In your posts sometimes, you give the impression that you DO know all, and when questioned (by me of late), you raise your voice in your writings. This reminds me of my dad. . .When we disagreed with him and tried to convey our opinions and feelings, he would get angry, and his voice would get louder and louder, refuting us until he couldn't hear us talking anymore. Then, in essence, he would say "We're done here; I've spoken." An occasional challenge is good. We don't always like them, but they serve a purpose. If anything, Jaye, we will keep each other on our toes. I can tell you don't like to be "shut down" when you have an opinion on the forums. . .neither do I.


That's how I picture Jaye in real life. A tyrant with a pretty bad temper. .
If you only knew how I picture you!

KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Girl Raised in the South wrote:
Jaye wrote:
"What the heck could an exchange of vows hurt?" ]

I am insinuating nothing G.R.I.T.S., and I see no mockery in allowing newlyweds to perform a small ring ceremony and exchange of vows for non-member parent's sake.


Elder Cree-L Kofford's words:

4. The Brethren counsel Church members not to perform a marriage ceremony following the temple sealing. Occasionally, you’ll find a young couple who will want to do a mock ceremony “so my mother won’t feel left out.� But that makes a mockery out of your temple sealing.


Thank you for posting that article from Brother Kofford, Jaye. I remember reading it in the Ensign. It was very enjoyable and informative. Brother Kofford said it is a mockery to exchange vows civilly after being sealed. An exchange of rings, with no vows spoken, seems to be OK.

And, come on, Jaye. . .I don't claim to know everything about the gospel. In your posts sometimes, you give the impression that you DO know all, and when questioned (by me of late), you raise your voice in your writings. This reminds me of my dad. . .When we disagreed with him and tried to convey our opinions and feelings, he would get angry, and his voice would get louder and louder, refuting us until he couldn't hear us talking anymore. Then, in essence, he would say "We're done here; I've spoken." An occasional challenge is good. We don't always like them, but they serve a purpose. If anything, Jaye, we will keep each other on our toes. I can tell you don't like to be "shut down" when you have an opinion on the forums. . .neither do I.


That's how I picture Jaye in real life. A tyrant with a pretty bad temper. .
If you only knew how I picture you!

Ask me if I care.

Ask me how accurate you are.