Dubbs (User)
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The Mormons who perpetrated the Mountain Meadows Massacre were INDEED following their religion.
Really, and you have proof of this?
They obeyed Brigham Young's instructions to the tee.
They mustered the Iron County Militia at B.Y.'s orders...and the Mormons of Iron County obeyed Brigham's instructions regarding refusing to sell or trade supplies to any emigrants who passed through without a permit from SLC.
The topic was whether the murders were ordered by Brigham, not whether trade was to be stopped, try to follow senile one.
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My ignore list... The The The The Betz, Kitcat, and the blonde. They have nothing of substance to say anyway, but just like to add smarmy comments to the conversations, so why bother with the the constant smariness?
Wren would like to think he's ignoring me, but he can't, won't and will not.
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Re:Documents raise questions about religious influ 4 Months, 1 Week ago
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Girl Raised in the South wrote:Jaye wrote:
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Don't try to be logical Wren, your not good at it. The people at Mountain Meadows were not following their religion, and made mistakes, as all do in all religions. Try to be more logical, your students are getting tired of listening to someone they laugh at behind his back. And there tired of reading blogs in class as a "lesson" 
The Mormons who perpetrated the Mountain Meadows Massacre were INDEED following their religion.
They obeyed Brigham Young's instructions to the tee.
They mustered the Iron County Militia at B.Y.'s orders...and the Mormons of Iron County obeyed Brigham's instructions regarding refusing to sell or trade supplies to any emigrants who passed through without a permit from SLC.
It was this obedience to a very un-Christian and flawed command from Brigham Young which led directly to the massacre of innocent men, women and children...aged 8 and over.
On the news last night, a study was done of Brigham Young's journals, etc. The man who did the study seriously doubts Brigham Young ordered the massacre. I'll see if I can find the story.If you would like to read the story, go to KUTV.com. The story is toward the bottom of the home page.
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Enjoy the journey, but spare me the drama!
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Dubbs (User)
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Jaye, you ever post the link to GBH saying that homosexuality is genetic?
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My ignore list... The The The The Betz, Kitcat, and the blonde. They have nothing of substance to say anyway, but just like to add smarmy comments to the conversations, so why bother with the the constant smariness?
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Dubbs wrote:
Jaye, you ever post the link to GBH saying that homosexuality is genetic?
I'll back Jaye on this one. I have read where President Hinckley said that. I was just reading a book or an article, can't remember which. So I can't provide a reference, but I know what I read.
GBH? Show some respect. Call him by his given name.
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A naughty and piquant wench...and a wicked witch
Dubs is simply not capable of ignoring the Wenches! He thinks he is, but he can't, he won't, and he will not.
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Dubbs wrote:
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Any other statements that Brigham Young made concerning Blacks I consider not to be of God and I condemn them.
Brigham Young was following what the his Mormon God told him!
And if you where true to that God you would do the same Thomas!
Here is what the Mormon God has to say about it!
Book of Moses Chapter 7
8 For behold, the Lord shall curse the land with much heat, and the barrenness thereof shall go forth forever; and there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people.
20 And it came to pass that Enoch talked with the Lord; and he said unto the Lord: Surely Zion shall dwell in safety forever. But the Lord said unto Enoch: Zion have I blessed, but the residue of the people have I cursed.
22 And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.
So Thomas do you believe the above verses to be true or false?
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It's two arguements, one is that the People at times have had curses given to them, If you believe the Old Testement Grizz, then you know this happened to Cain.
What Thomas was saying is he doesn't believe some of the opinons of Brigham on the black race, and how it orginated. The churches official stance is we don't know. Brigham gave his opinion, which was never added to scripture, thus we know it was not doctrine.
Your opinion, merely.
BY's teaching were doctrine in his day and followed as late as the apostleships of Delbert Stapely and Marion G. Romney.
You don't make doctrine, but BY did.
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BY and George A. Smith created the conditions for the massacre to occur. The U.S. executed Japanese war criminals as constructive participants in the horrors perpetrated by their subordinates.
Thus, BY and GAS were, and are today, guilty for the MMM.
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