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dubbs, strictly speaking from what past Mormon leaders have taught, it's my opinion that the Jesus Christ of Mormonism is not the biblical Jesus Christ of Christianity.
There's only one man who was born in Bethlehem, died in Jeruselum on a cross, was reserected and acended to heaven, sure we have differing views of what he taught based on a flawed book, but it is the same Jesus, we don't say your not Christian, or that you believe in a "different" Jesus, as you do.


Now I have trouble with Joseph's book of Mormon because there just isn't any evidence for it like what we have for God's word the Bible. now you continually bash the holy Bible but isn't it true that the Mormon Church regards it as Scripture?


There's more evidence that you think, if you studied it like I have you'd see. Did you know there's still places in the Bible they don't know where they are? Does that make it false?

Just claiming yourself to be a Prophet of God and being sustained as such by your followers doesn't make anyone an actual Prophet does it?
God's word the holy Bible warns us about false prophets and teachers.

Yes,true, but God said he would always use Prophets, and always have PRophets, even in his Church in the New Testement he gave Prophets, so obviously, there are true Prophets. Where's your churches?



Once again I don't believe Joseph Smith or any other Mormon has ever held a valid priesthood such as you claim to have, and I believe it's not biblical and I strongly believe its blasphemy against God.


Well the Catholics and other Christian faiths would disagree with you, are they burning in hell for it also?


I really take issue with your so-called plan of salvation, the majority of said plan is based on one's works and not what Jesus Christ did for us.


Not true, as our scriptures teach, we are "saved by grace, after all we can do" Grace is first, but obviously we have to do our part as the apostle James clearly taught. "faith without works is dead being alone"



Don't you believe in all the doctrines of your faith? doesn't that put your temple recommend in jeopardy?

What did I say I don't believe?

I'd like to remind everyone here of one important thing Jesus Christ teaches us to hate the sin, not the sinner. we all need to remember that there was only one who was sinless, and they crucified him.

Don't you believe in all the doctrines of your faith? doesn't that put your temple recommend in jeopardy?

The Catholics will agree with you on this, Dubbs.

BLogan wrote:
I'd like to remind everyone here of one important thing Jesus Christ teaches us to hate the sin, not the sinner. we all need to remember that there was only one who was sinless, and they crucified him.

Amen.

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why do some Mormons still occasionally get riled up and start talking about a heavenly mother?

I didn't know Mormon got riled up about this? Jesus had a mother, didn't He? You have one. They are just as much a part of "man"kind as fathers, aren't they? I'd say they are a pretty important part, not only here, but THERE! Don't get riled, they'll forgive you. Even with your chauvinist attitude.

Why? don't you think God could handle creation on his own? Don't confuse creation with the Mormon beelief of procreation.

Has nothing to do with God being able to handle his creation, has to do with a sacred topic.

Don't you actually mean this digs up another embarrassing teaching for the Mormon church?

What, mother in heaven? No, this makes perfect sense to most logical bible believers, if there is a father in heaven, there's logically a mother.

If God created us in his image, then logic says women were created in a female image.

Only bible thumping nut jobs who listen to their preachers screaming, 'that is false, that is false, those damn Mormons are false" are the ones who can't think for themselves, past their preachers words.

Dubbs, most Bible believers think God created man in his image. Nothing is indicated whatsoever that there was a Mother Goddess. That is paganism.


Do you think we know all about the heavens Wren?


Is it possible there is many things we don't know about God and what he is, who he is and who he's with now?


Does it not make a little sense that if we are his children, and he is our father in heaven, (matt 6, among many others) we have a mother? Think past your preachers words for a minute and answer in your own thoughts.

That is why we have the Bible, Dubbs, to restrain the credulous faculty of some, such as imagining that Heavenly Mother exists.

But actually your common belief teaches that their many Heavenly Mothers as there are many Heavenly Fathers.

Because we don't as much as we would like does not give us free reign to make up stuff.


God says in the new testement that many secret treasures and doctrine would be given to his believers, where are these going to come from if not Prophets?


I notice you did not answer my questions, because I think you know and have admitted the Bible is not completly accurate nor complete, and much we are missing. Do you know how many books of scripture are mentioned in the bible that we don't have today? YOu think we could be missing some things from those? Again, answer my questions and think for yourself.

Out for a date with my wife. out.

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So, this put the faithful LDS in a real bind. Here, on one hand, they believe in marriage rights for all,

Actually this is not true, they believe in marriage rights as God has ordained it.


And yet the church is telling them that they don't favor that. Go against your heart or go against your church. .

don't "favor" it? I'd say there saying it more strongly than that, They are saying Gods will is that marriage is defined as being beteen a man and women.

It has always been the dimema with man, go with God, or go with mankind. This dilema has existed since Adam and Eve.

This is the bind that I found myself in, one more than Virtuous found herself in, and many others that favor the LDS

So now we see the real reason you left the

church?

Dubbs, DO YOU have magic ball to know ALL????

Just asking

YOU have no IDEA why JLD is not active.....JLD has never been rude to you, YOU NEED A BREAK if you are going to be so DAMN RUDE TO US ALL. JMO

I just asked a question Blondie, he can choose to answer or not.

Sin is typically a reason why many leave the church, there sin can't be overcome and it's easier to leave than feel the quilt. Or so they think the quilt will leave.

dubbs, that's a copout and B.S.
the Mormon Church uses that excuse that somehow the member done something wrong but a larger percentage feal that it was the Mormon leadership who failed them or they just pulled their heads out of the sand and researched Mormonism's claims and found them to be bogus as many have done.