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Dubbs (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 2 Months, 1 Week ago
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KitKat wrote:BLogan wrote:
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dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Once again, what happens to those who never heard of Jesus Christ in this life? The cave men, for example.
Ok, according to Mormon belief and the need for baptism for the dead, how does that help said caveman?
According to LDS beliefs, the cavemen will get their chance in the Spirit world. According to you, from what I've gathered, if the cavemen didn't accept Jesus Christ in this life, too bad. I know which belief I'd rather have.
Not what I said or believe.
Fine. You won't tell me what you believe, but seem to just want to play games. That leaves me to assume you don't even know what you believe. Or aren't sure, anyway.Now your learning Kitkat, it's what born again bible thumpers do, they rip and demean others faith, but you want to have them answer questions about theirs, they disappear. I've seen this over and over in my life. Strange their all so alike in this way.
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 2 Months, 1 Week ago
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mykidsgramma wrote:
Dubbs, I told you my mother continuesd to serve. But she stopped attending Church. It offended me as well, and I stopped going but after 4 months, I realized that no one there cared if I went to Church or not, and, as you said, I was only hurting myself. So, I went back to Church. I learned that even though the Gospel is perfect, the people are not. It just took my Mother much longer to figure that out. Furthermore, she was not EASILY provoked, but I am not going to get into the circumstances as it is a long story and does not really matter. It may be a sin to you, Dubbs, but my mother does not have to answer to you. She has already answered to her Savior for any and all sins she may have committed.
Your right she has to answer for her own life. But I have seen people get offended for the silliest things in my life, I have been offended in my life by some people at church but I would never allow any person take something so important to me away. I have liked the recent talks in conference that mention how we need to forgive and forget when offended.
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BLogan wrote:Dubbs wrote:
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We aren't talking about the LDS church saying that gay marriage is morally wrong, :
We certainly are, and that's the point of this whole conversation. 
Is that what the Church is currently saying? That Gay marriage is morally wrong?
Of COURSE.
I was reading from lds.org. Here is a comment from Elder Oaks concerning Gays and membership in the Church:
"Every teaching position, every missionary position can be held by single people. We welcome to that kind of service people who are struggling with any kind of temptation when the struggle is a good struggle and they are living so as to be appropriate teachers, or missionaries, or whatever the calling may be."
So a person that is Gay and that tells his Bishop he is Gay and as long as he/she is not sexually active, just like their hetersexual counterpart, they can go on a mission. Does that sound like being Gay is morally wrong to you?
Huh? Being Gay is not the same topic as same sex marriage dude,
So dude, you agree, being Gay is not morally wrong! I agree.
Wow, I guess I have to spell it out for you.
The church as said that being Homosexual is not a sin, but the acting on it is.
On a completly seperate topic.
The church wants to keep marriage as God intended it, between a man and a women.
Not sure where your confused, but you surely are.
Well dude, they can have it that way. Doesn't mean they can tell anyone else how they can have them. It's NON OF THEIR BUSINESS. Just as it's non of anyone ele's business to them how they should perform their marriages. You're making things up, dude.
You LDS? Are you saying the proclomation on the family is not inspired, and the Prophets are not inspired to try to keep marriage the way God intended it?
Gee dubbs, you're questioning rather the proclamation is inspired or not depends on how it is viewed in say 20 or 30 years and if something within it becomes embarrassing to the Mormon Church.I don't see anything in it that hasn't been taught in the bible since the begining of mankind.
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mykidsgramma wrote:What makes you think a member of the LDS Church, "in it's confines" cannot have a relationship with Jesus Christ? I don't presume to know and understand everything in other Churches, and I don't judge them for their beliefs even when they differ from mine. Nor do I make up things about their church to make them sound bad. Another misconception I have noticed around here is that Mormons know nothing about any other religions, have never been to any other religious service, and think that all other religions are wrong and their members are going to Hell. Generalizations! I hate them all . . . including this one 
Seriously, I know there are very good people in other religions that believe in the Savior, and follow him, and will absolutely be going to Heaven. I also know that we, as Mormons (I prefer to be called LDS) believe in Jesus Christ, know that he is our savior, that he died for our sins, and we try to follow his example, which is the most importnat and perfect example ever set for us . . . ALL of us. Jesus Christ is the very base of our Church. We are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We are not St. Matthew's Church (that was the Lutheran Church I went to before I joined the LDS Church)or The Seventh Day Adventists, etc.
By the way, I have a very loving relationship with my Savior. I study about Him in the Bible, I pray in His name, I give thanks and gratitude to Him and love and honor Him. I do try to follow His example in everything I say and do.Good comments kidsgramma, don't let these mormon bashers tell you your not Christian as Blogan has tried to do in the past, and today.
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Last Edit: 2008/05/17 00:07 By Dubbs.
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 2 Months, 1 Week ago
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Dubbs wrote:KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Once again, what happens to those who never heard of Jesus Christ in this life? The cave men, for example.
Ok, according to Mormon belief and the need for baptism for the dead, how does that help said caveman?
According to LDS beliefs, the cavemen will get their chance in the Spirit world. According to you, from what I've gathered, if the cavemen didn't accept Jesus Christ in this life, too bad. I know which belief I'd rather have.
Not what I said or believe.
Fine. You won't tell me what you believe, but seem to just want to play games. That leaves me to assume you don't even know what you believe. Or aren't sure, anyway.
Now your learning Kitkat, it's what born again bible thumpers do, they rip and demean others faith, but you want to have them answer questions about theirs, they disappear.
I've seen this over and over in my life. Strange their all so alike in this way.Learning? I never want to be like you, dubs. I can fight my own battles and I will do so in as nice a way as I can. I don't do it the way you do. Butt out.
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