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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:KitKat wrote:
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When it comes to salvation, ("eternal life with God" now is the time to either accept Jesus Christ, or reject him but once you've drawn your last breath here on Earth it's too late regardless of LDS belief. baptism for the deadis a waste of time.
Just curious.... In your opinion, what happens to those who died never hearing of Jesus Christ?
You gonna answer this Blogan? (doubt it)
Dubs, either be nice when you butt in on my conversations, or butt out.
Then be nice to me.
After you, dubby.
By the way, by recently baptized granddaugher is reading this. She wanted to say something to you. Here she is:
i dont believe you used to be a bishop. by the way you are very very weird
And that is from the mouth of babes, dubs.
 Give her a big kiss for me Kitkat, tell her I'm a nice guy in real life, she'd like me. Tell her not to judge people online. It's not the real them at times.No can do,dubs. I asked her if she thinks we can be mean on the internet because it isn't "real life". She laughed and said NO. She's much wiser than you will ever be. 
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Jaye (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:Jaye wrote:
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Don't beleive me then on Baptism for the dead, believe the references to non LDS scholars.
as far as the Priesthood, as I said, no other Christian faith I know of even claims to have the Priesthood, much less understand what it is and what they do with it. Christ gave the priesthood to his 12 apostles. As he always wanted it to be.
Really? Thats as He always wanted it to be? Only 12 to hold the priesthood at any given time?
Then that would tend to put the lie to the LDS practice of ordaining LDS males to the priesthood when they reach 12 years of age.
If this was as Jesus always wanted it to be...then every last worthy member of the LDS Church might as well kiss their priesthood authority nighty-night...except of course for the Quorum of the Twelve.
Don't play the idiot Jaye, although you do it well. Christ instituted the 12 apostles, and gave them the Preisthood. You know this, (at least I think you do  ) He never said it would change, it hasn't.
I beg to differ Kent. The fact that you stated that Christ gave the priesthood to 12 men...12 Apostles, as He always wanted it to be...and the fact that the LDS Church ordains EVERY worthy LDS boy to the priesthood when he reaches 12 years of age...puts the lie to your comment.
And since you claim that Jesus never said that this would never change...and it hasn't...you are either a downright liar, and prevaricator...or you are simply uninformed.
Play the idiot all you want, I think it was clear by my designation of "12" apostles, I was speaking of them having the priesthood. For the non senile, I think it was clear.
What has been crystal clear, for nigh on every participant of this forum...is that your opinion bears less weight than a toad's fart.
Within the 4 gospels...Jesus gave priesthood authority to His chosen 12 Apostles.
Nothing is mentioned regarding the Lord teaching that this priesthood should be given to worthy males from the age of 12 and up.
He only gave this gift to 12 individuals. When did this change?
Jaye, answer this, do you believe we have every thing or word Jesus ever said and did in the Bible?
No Kent...I don't. I believe that what we have is every word and deed that a number of His followers heard him say, or saw him do, or heard about him saying or doing... and remembered to relate.
The gospel of Luke and Mark are based upon hearsay evidence which these two men heard about Jesus from other men.
And in the case of Luke...his account contains rather important stories that were not included in the accounts of the two who actually walked and talked with Jesus during His life and ministry.
But there were other disciples who's words regarding the life and ministry of Jesus Christ were disregarded and left out of the Holy Bible.
There in lies the rub you don't get cliffy, We dont' have the whole organization nor list of all who recieved the priesthood, how, where, or why. So for you to question where this happened, then admit we don't have all that happened, shows your logically not thinking.
Your grammar sucks...figuratively speaking. Until you address your errors, and work on the manner in which you think, and communicate...you have no room to accuse anyone else of 'logically not thinking'...or did you mean to say...'lack of logical thinking'?
Let me re-phrase. You admit we don't have all of Christ's nor the apostles deeds and words in scripture.
But then ask the question
"Nothing is mentioned regarding the Lord teaching that this priesthood should be given to worthy males from the age of 12 and up."
See the contradiction cliffy? You admit on one hand we don't know all Christ did, on the other you question that "nothing is mentioned"
Is it possible it was and was taken out as part of the "plain and precious parts" that were removed from the Bible? Or do you not believe this scripture either?
That is an unacceptable argument, period. It allows anyone anytime to decide what is acceptable or not with the remark, "well, it must have been one of the 'plain and precious parts' removed long ago from the Bible." Simply unacceptable.
Yet, that is what has caused the confusion to begin with, the Bible.
You can't even be logical enough to agree that we don't have all that Jesus and the apostles said and did in their life in the Bible?
Hey gumball, if we don't have it, how do you know it was necessary?
If we don't have it? Huh, WE do have it, that's the point dar dar.
If you have it...it should be relatively easy to PROVE it.
Huh? Do you claim to have it? Can you prove it?
No...and that's why I do not profess that the LDS Church is the one true Church, nor the only path to salvation.
So now you don't profess to have the priesthood anymore? Never said that Kent. As far as I'm concerned...the LDS Church is true enough for me. I don't concern myself with whether or not it is the only truth for everyone. That is between everyone...and everyone's Creator.
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KitKat (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Jaye wrote:KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
When it comes to salvation, ("eternal life with God" now is the time to either accept Jesus Christ, or reject him but once you've drawn your last breath here on Earth it's too late regardless of LDS belief. baptism for the deadis a waste of time.
Just curious.... In your opinion, what happens to those who died never hearing of Jesus Christ?
You gonna answer this Blogan? (doubt it)
Dubs, either be nice when you butt in on my conversations, or butt out.
Then be nice to me.
After you, dubby.
By the way, by recently baptized granddaugher is reading this. She wanted to say something to you. Here she is:
i dont believe you used to be a bishop. by the way you are very very weird
And that is from the mouth of babes, dubs.
Bless the child. Sometimes the greatest of wisdom comes from those who have no concept of wile or device.
Give her a hug from the Wolf and I...will you dear lady?Sure will, and did. She's a sweet little girl. She is spending the night, so I'm getting off here and am going to go watch "Alvin and the Chipmunks" with her and her little sister.
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Dubbs (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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KitKat wrote:Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
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Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
When it comes to salvation, ("eternal life with God" now is the time to either accept Jesus Christ, or reject him but once you've drawn your last breath here on Earth it's too late regardless of LDS belief. baptism for the deadis a waste of time.
Just curious.... In your opinion, what happens to those who died never hearing of Jesus Christ?
You gonna answer this Blogan? (doubt it)
Dubs, either be nice when you butt in on my conversations, or butt out.
Then be nice to me.
After you, dubby.
By the way, by recently baptized granddaugher is reading this. She wanted to say something to you. Here she is:
i dont believe you used to be a bishop. by the way you are very very weird
And that is from the mouth of babes, dubs.
Give her a big kiss for me Kitkat, tell her I'm a nice guy in real life, she'd like me. Tell her not to judge people online. It's not the real them at times.
No can do,dubs. I asked her if she thinks we can be mean on the internet because it isn't "real life". She laughed and said NO. She's much wiser than you will ever be.Did you show her your cussing and swearin online Kitkat? Ga ahead, show her the "real" grandma.
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Isn't it much better since the ignore came down? Life is so much better not having to respond to the three smarmy sisters of negativity, ahhh, it's like a load has been lifted, they never made an intelligent post anyway, so what are we missing? NOTHING!
My ignore list... Betz, Kitkat, and the blonde. They have nothing of substance to say anyway, but just like to add smarmy comments to the conversations, so why bother with the the constant smariness?
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Jaye (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
When it comes to salvation, ("eternal life with God" now is the time to either accept Jesus Christ, or reject him but once you've drawn your last breath here on Earth it's too late regardless of LDS belief. baptism for the deadis a waste of time.
Just curious.... In your opinion, what happens to those who died never hearing of Jesus Christ?
You gonna answer this Blogan? (doubt it)
Dubs, either be nice when you butt in on my conversations, or butt out.
Then be nice to me.
After you, dubby.
By the way, by recently baptized granddaugher is reading this. She wanted to say something to you. Here she is:
i dont believe you used to be a bishop. by the way you are very very weird
And that is from the mouth of babes, dubs.
Give her a big kiss for me Kitkat, tell her I'm a nice guy in real life, she'd like me. Tell her not to judge people online. It's not the real them at times.Oh gross. Now THAT'S scary.  Especially coming from a guy who does the most judging of ANYONE on this forum.
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Jaye wrote:Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
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BLogan wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
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Don't beleive me then on Baptism for the dead, believe the references to non LDS scholars.
as far as the Priesthood, as I said, no other Christian faith I know of even claims to have the Priesthood, much less understand what it is and what they do with it. Christ gave the priesthood to his 12 apostles. As he always wanted it to be.
Really? Thats as He always wanted it to be? Only 12 to hold the priesthood at any given time?
Then that would tend to put the lie to the LDS practice of ordaining LDS males to the priesthood when they reach 12 years of age.
If this was as Jesus always wanted it to be...then every last worthy member of the LDS Church might as well kiss their priesthood authority nighty-night...except of course for the Quorum of the Twelve.
Don't play the idiot Jaye, although you do it well. Christ instituted the 12 apostles, and gave them the Preisthood. You know this, (at least I think you do ) He never said it would change, it hasn't.
I beg to differ Kent. The fact that you stated that Christ gave the priesthood to 12 men...12 Apostles, as He always wanted it to be...and the fact that the LDS Church ordains EVERY worthy LDS boy to the priesthood when he reaches 12 years of age...puts the lie to your comment.
And since you claim that Jesus never said that this would never change...and it hasn't...you are either a downright liar, and prevaricator...or you are simply uninformed.
Play the idiot all you want, I think it was clear by my designation of "12" apostles, I was speaking of them having the priesthood. For the non senile, I think it was clear.
What has been crystal clear, for nigh on every participant of this forum...is that your opinion bears less weight than a toad's fart.
Within the 4 gospels...Jesus gave priesthood authority to His chosen 12 Apostles.
Nothing is mentioned regarding the Lord teaching that this priesthood should be given to worthy males from the age of 12 and up.
He only gave this gift to 12 individuals. When did this change?
Jaye, answer this, do you believe we have every thing or word Jesus ever said and did in the Bible?
No Kent...I don't. I believe that what we have is every word and deed that a number of His followers heard him say, or saw him do, or heard about him saying or doing... and remembered to relate.
The gospel of Luke and Mark are based upon hearsay evidence which these two men heard about Jesus from other men.
And in the case of Luke...his account contains rather important stories that were not included in the accounts of the two who actually walked and talked with Jesus during His life and ministry.
But there were other disciples who's words regarding the life and ministry of Jesus Christ were disregarded and left out of the Holy Bible.
There in lies the rub you don't get cliffy, We dont' have the whole organization nor list of all who recieved the priesthood, how, where, or why. So for you to question where this happened, then admit we don't have all that happened, shows your logically not thinking.
Your grammar sucks...figuratively speaking. Until you address your errors, and work on the manner in which you think, and communicate...you have no room to accuse anyone else of 'logically not thinking'...or did you mean to say...'lack of logical thinking'?
Let me re-phrase. You admit we don't have all of Christ's nor the apostles deeds and words in scripture.
But then ask the question
"Nothing is mentioned regarding the Lord teaching that this priesthood should be given to worthy males from the age of 12 and up."
See the contradiction cliffy? You admit on one hand we don't know all Christ did, on the other you question that "nothing is mentioned"
Is it possible it was and was taken out as part of the "plain and precious parts" that were removed from the Bible? Or do you not believe this scripture either?
That is an unacceptable argument, period. It allows anyone anytime to decide what is acceptable or not with the remark, "well, it must have been one of the 'plain and precious parts' removed long ago from the Bible." Simply unacceptable.
Yet, that is what has caused the confusion to begin with, the Bible.
You can't even be logical enough to agree that we don't have all that Jesus and the apostles said and did in their life in the Bible?
Hey gumball, if we don't have it, how do you know it was necessary?
If we don't have it? Huh, WE do have it, that's the point dar dar.
If you have it...it should be relatively easy to PROVE it.
Huh? Do you claim to have it? Can you prove it?
No...and that's why I do not profess that the LDS Church is the one true Church, nor the only path to salvation.
So now you don't profess to have the priesthood anymore?
Never said that Kent.
As far as I'm concerned...the LDS Church is true enough for me. I don't concern myself with whether or not it is the only truth for everyone.
That is between everyone...and everyone's Creator.I asked if you claim to have it, you said "NO" So do you or don't you claim to have the priesthood? If so, what is it for you to you?
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Isn't it much better since the ignore came down? Life is so much better not having to respond to the three smarmy sisters of negativity, ahhh, it's like a load has been lifted, they never made an intelligent post anyway, so what are we missing? NOTHING!
My ignore list... Betz, Kitkat, and the blonde. They have nothing of substance to say anyway, but just like to add smarmy comments to the conversations, so why bother with the the constant smariness?
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