"LOL Dubbs, we all know that you're a cross between Don Knotts and Frank Burns."

Except Dubbs is not as good looking or as manly as either of them.

Wren wrote:
"LOL Dubbs, we all know that you're a cross between Don Knotts and Frank Burns."

Except Dubbs is not as good looking or as manly as either of them.

Amen to that!!!

Wren wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?

Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?

Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?

Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?

Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?

There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".

I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.

OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.

let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.

And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.

Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.

Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?

ThomasK, I understand your feelings about this. However, when a church preaches that it is the only true church with God's authority, expect to be asked for evidence. And expect that you have to produce it. And then expect it to be examined minutely and carefully. It should be, if it is what you claim, and it should stand up to examination, should it not?

I suppose so. We probably need to duke it out with the Catholics, since we're talking about priesthood authority.

In the end, we are talking about Faith. I don't know how you can prove that. Was the Book of Mormon translated from anceint plates? The only way we can know that is if the angel Moroni shows them to us. Was Joseph Smith ordained by John the Baptist? Sounds far fetched, doesn't it. Is the Bible the word of God? What evidence is there? Is there a GOD? Prove it. If we are made in His image, would that be Asian, African, Caucasian, Indian......

Wren wrote: ThomasK, I understand your feelings about this. However, when a church preaches that it is the only true church with God's authority, expect to be asked for evidence. And expect that you have to produce it. And then expect it to be examined minutely and carefully. It should be, if it is what you claim, and it should stand up to examination, should it not?

ThomasK wrote: I suppose so. We probably need to duke it out with the Catholics, since we're talking about priesthood authority.

In the end, we are talking about Faith. I don't know how you can prove that. Was the Book of Mormon translated from anceint plates? The only way we can know that is if the angel Moroni shows them to us. Was Joseph Smith ordained by John the Baptist? Sounds far fetched, doesn't it. Is the Bible the word of God? What evidence is there? Is there a GOD? Prove it. If we are made in His image, would that be Asian, African, Caucasian, Indian......

That makes sense to me that we can only make faith decisions by faith. And I never question anyone's faith at all. And I think we should all give that respect. If someone says, "I believe . . .", then it is truly for that person only. However, if a person says "I know", then I think it is correct to ask, "How?".

Yeah, this is tough stuff, isn't it?

Wren wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?

Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?

Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?

Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?

Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?

There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".

I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.

OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.

let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.

And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.

Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.

Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?

ThomasK, I understand your feelings about this. However, when a church preaches that it is the only true church with God's authority, expect to be asked for evidence. And expect that you have to produce it. And then expect it to be examined minutely and carefully. It should be, if it is what you claim, and it should stand up to examination, should it not?

Oh for hell sakes you moron, stop with the asking for evidence of something you also can't show proof of, that Christ live. It's the same dumb arguement, from the mind of a retard. Stop already, it's old, boring and worn out. Not to mention illogical. Will someone tell this retard how illogical is line of reasoning is, Kitkat, someone. geez he's a dumbass.

He's like a child with his repeating things, over and over and over. Wow. I really think he has mental issues. Anybody know this bozo in real life? I would doubt he would allow anyonehere in his life to see what a pyscho he really is.

Wren wrote:
Wren wrote: ThomasK, I understand your feelings about this. However, when a church preaches that it is the only true church with God's authority, expect to be asked for evidence. And expect that you have to produce it. And then expect it to be examined minutely and carefully. It should be, if it is what you claim, and it should stand up to examination, should it not?

ThomasK wrote: I suppose so. We probably need to duke it out with the Catholics, since we're talking about priesthood authority.

In the end, we are talking about Faith. I don't know how you can prove that. Was the Book of Mormon translated from anceint plates? The only way we can know that is if the angel Moroni shows them to us. Was Joseph Smith ordained by John the Baptist? Sounds far fetched, doesn't it. Is the Bible the word of God? What evidence is there? Is there a GOD? Prove it. If we are made in His image, would that be Asian, African, Caucasian, Indian......

That makes sense to me that we can only make faith decisions by faith. And I never question anyone's faith at all. And I think we should all give that respect. If someone says, "I believe . . .", then it is truly for that person only. However, if a person says "I know", then I think it is correct to ask, "How?".

Yeah, this is tough stuff, isn't it?

I don't wish to question another's faith. Whatever works for them in their life is what's important. Personally I do believe in God. And with that I believe we are His children. When I think of my own children, I think He has to have a pretty big forgiving heart. If we try to live the best we can, He's not going to be too harsh. At least that's my thoughts.