utocoman wrote:
The ASSumption was on your part JLD. I was replying to Tommy.
When you reply to one, you are replying to the other. And vice versa.

truthhurts wrote:
utocoman wrote:
The ASSumption was on your part JLD. I was replying to Tommy.
When you reply to one, you are replying to the other. And vice versa.

LOL, so can I lump you in with Uto then? You'll make such a pretty couple.

JLD wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
utocoman wrote:
The ASSumption was on your part JLD. I was replying to Tommy.
When you reply to one, you are replying to the other. And vice versa.

LOL, so can I lump you in with Uto then? You'll make such a pretty couple.
I like him, but we have totally different styles. But hey, if it makes you feel good, lump away. Republicans are good at lumping things.

You and Tommy, however, are two peas from the same pod.

truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
I don't think you can say for certain what is going to happen next in Iran. Mosul, Sadr City and Basra's headlines are quite different than 6 months ago. The Iraqi people seem to be taking a different course. An unconditional pullout in 16 months is not the answer. That IS for certain.
Really, Thomas? Why is it "for certain"? Have you been appointed some sort of military and political seer or something? Thomas the Seer?

Please post your evidence as to why it is certain. In that evidence, you should post proof that if we withdraw in 16 or 18 or whatever months, the Iraqi's will devolve into a worse situation than they are in now. You should also post proof that the timeline would not induce them to get their act together, especially since they sure seem to want some sort of timeline for us to get out anyway. You know, like how when a teacher sets a timeline for a test, it gets kids to study and prepare for said test. Well, the ones who want to pass the test, anyway.

You should also post proof that the Bush/McCain way will eventually (10 years, 20 years, 50 years, who knows) work to our satisfaction. Our satisfaction, of course, is apparently not an Iraq that can take care of itself, but an Iraq that can do that plus allow us to build bases and use those bases as launching pads for incursions into other areas of the middle east.

And while you are at it, post your proof that all the troops we have tied up in Iraq for all those years won't affect our ability to respond elsewhere if we need to on short notice.

So go ahead, Thomas. Post your proof of the "certainty" of these things. We'll all be waiting on pins and needles for your proof.

Oh, one more thing. No one has ever proposed an "unconditional" pullout in sixteen months that I am aware of. Certainly not Obama. Please present your proof of that as well.

Hold on there Kemo Sabe, before you blow a fuse.

If you're going to drink Obama's kool aid, at least know what you are drinking. Here's a direct quote from his own website:

redeploy combat brigades from Iraq at a pace of 1 to 2 brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010.

Now drink shug-a-lug, drink, drink, drink, drink....

Even the Iraqi government doesn't want us out for AT LEAST FIVES YEARS. Read the news, (and your own guys website) dimwit before you open your idiotic mouth.

Now let's see what else I can predict? You're going to wet yourself from all that kool aid you're drinking.
Let me make this short and succinct for you.

One. Here is what you said:

An unconditional pullout in 16 months is not the answer. That IS for certain.

Two. You presented no proof, not even any evidence, that an unconditional pullout is not the answer. Your opinion is not proof or evidence.

Three. You presented no proof that Obama said anything in his proposal was "unconditional." Nothing in the part you posted above in bold says anything about it being "unconditional", and I challenge you to post a link to anything Obama has said that says his plan is "unconditional".

So much for Thomas the Seer. Hell, so much for Thomas the Lucid Human Being.

Chug-a-lug, Tommy boy.

You're such a dweeb. Who shives a git what you think. You think unconditional surrender is the answer, go right ahead. Why don't you prove it. And if you think Obama's "plan" to pull out in 16 months by the summer of 2010, is going to make everything hunky dory in the Middle East, dream on kool aid kid. I challenge you to prove it.

Now go cool off with a nice glass of kool aid. You're getting your grundies in a heck of a bundle.
Once again, no supporting material for your statements. You could have just said "I have no proof that Obama ever said his position was unconditional, and I have no proof that pulling out is not the answer." Then you would have been an honest man, Tommy.

Instead we got just a little "Tommy Tirade."

What's a matter, haven't kicked your dog today? What kind of "conditions" do you think he can get by leaving Iraq in 16 months by the summer of 2010, as his own website states? Do you think the Iraqi's are going to be sooooo greatful we are gone that they will do his bidding? You've lost it. Not that you ever had it.

Take another drink.

Alright, enough fun, but I have to come clean. I am ThomasK. Yup. You guessed. You are sooo "SMRT"!

But on a more serious note, it is obvious nothing is going to get accomplished by trying to have a conversation here. Uto is borderline crazy (judging from his other posts on the forum) and Truth is just an ass. ThomasK is right about the Cool Aid. You are so butt-hurt by the current administration that anything anyone says contrary to it you embrace wholeheartedly - glub glub glub. Doesn't mean that what you embrace is wrong - just scary that you don't even question it. Lucky for you, Obama is a smart enough man to handle thinking for a couple more people. Frees you up for other things...

ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
I don't think you can say for certain what is going to happen next in Iran. Mosul, Sadr City and Basra's headlines are quite different than 6 months ago. The Iraqi people seem to be taking a different course. An unconditional pullout in 16 months is not the answer. That IS for certain.
Really, Thomas? Why is it "for certain"? Have you been appointed some sort of military and political seer or something? Thomas the Seer?

Please post your evidence as to why it is certain. In that evidence, you should post proof that if we withdraw in 16 or 18 or whatever months, the Iraqi's will devolve into a worse situation than they are in now. You should also post proof that the timeline would not induce them to get their act together, especially since they sure seem to want some sort of timeline for us to get out anyway. You know, like how when a teacher sets a timeline for a test, it gets kids to study and prepare for said test. Well, the ones who want to pass the test, anyway.

You should also post proof that the Bush/McCain way will eventually (10 years, 20 years, 50 years, who knows) work to our satisfaction. Our satisfaction, of course, is apparently not an Iraq that can take care of itself, but an Iraq that can do that plus allow us to build bases and use those bases as launching pads for incursions into other areas of the middle east.

And while you are at it, post your proof that all the troops we have tied up in Iraq for all those years won't affect our ability to respond elsewhere if we need to on short notice.

So go ahead, Thomas. Post your proof of the "certainty" of these things. We'll all be waiting on pins and needles for your proof.

Oh, one more thing. No one has ever proposed an "unconditional" pullout in sixteen months that I am aware of. Certainly not Obama. Please present your proof of that as well.

Hold on there Kemo Sabe, before you blow a fuse.

If you're going to drink Obama's kool aid, at least know what you are drinking. Here's a direct quote from his own website:

redeploy combat brigades from Iraq at a pace of 1 to 2 brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010.

Now drink shug-a-lug, drink, drink, drink, drink....

Even the Iraqi government doesn't want us out for AT LEAST FIVES YEARS. Read the news, (and your own guys website) dimwit before you open your idiotic mouth.

Now let's see what else I can predict? You're going to wet yourself from all that kool aid you're drinking.
Let me make this short and succinct for you.

One. Here is what you said:

An unconditional pullout in 16 months is not the answer. That IS for certain.

Two. You presented no proof, not even any evidence, that an unconditional pullout is not the answer. Your opinion is not proof or evidence.

Three. You presented no proof that Obama said anything in his proposal was "unconditional." Nothing in the part you posted above in bold says anything about it being "unconditional", and I challenge you to post a link to anything Obama has said that says his plan is "unconditional".

So much for Thomas the Seer. Hell, so much for Thomas the Lucid Human Being.

Chug-a-lug, Tommy boy.

You're such a dweeb. Who shives a git what you think. You think unconditional surrender is the answer, go right ahead. Why don't you prove it. And if you think Obama's "plan" to pull out in 16 months by the summer of 2010, is going to make everything hunky dory in the Middle East, dream on kool aid kid. I challenge you to prove it.

Now go cool off with a nice glass of kool aid. You're getting your grundies in a heck of a bundle.
Once again, no supporting material for your statements. You could have just said "I have no proof that Obama ever said his position was unconditional, and I have no proof that pulling out is not the answer." Then you would have been an honest man, Tommy.

Instead we got just a little "Tommy Tirade."

What's a matter, haven't kicked your dog today? What kind of "conditions" do you think he can get by leaving Iraq in 16 months by the summer of 2010, as his own website states? Do you think the Iraqi's are going to be sooooo greatful we are gone that they will do his bidding? You've lost it. Not that you ever had it.

Take another drink.

Actually Uto agreed that they will hold hands and sing. Man, aren't you paying attention?