Unless she is StupidReader. Then we're talking legs and underarms. Certainly not a bikini line; that's a horrible thought.

Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
woody wrote:
utocoman wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
al-Malaki was misquoted by the German leftist mag trying to boost Obama. This is not what he said. This is a non-story.

Pray tell convict. Please direct us to the correct quote? Make sure it is not on Rush/Sean sites. Those damn Germans never have recovered from their Nazi days have they Ray?

Here you go you stupid clown
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/20/iraq/main4275953.shtml

Now what will you come back with? Maybe nothing like most of your hate filled rants...
LOL. If you had read the whole article Woodrow (and Raymond), you would see that the German magazine is sticking to their guns. From the article you listed.

Today Der Spiegel said it was standing by the accuracy of its interview.

"A Baghdad government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said in a statement that SPIEGEL had 'misunderstood and mistranslated' the Iraqi prime minister, but didn't point to where the misunderstanding or mistranslation might have occurred," the magazine said, which also noted that several media organizations, including CBS, had pointed out the confusion or tepidness of the spokesman's rebuttal.

"SPIEGEL sticks to its version of the conversation," it said.

If I only had a dollar for every time a politician said he had been misquoted.

So a leftist agrees with a leftist Commie pro-Obama German mag? Why am I not surprised. Who am I to believe al-Malaki's own words or the words of a pro-Obama leftist rag. You folks are soooo predictable.

I say al-Malaki did not say he supported the Magic Obama's plan. You fools say prove it, I do prove it with a link from your own leftist news outlet and then you say you don't believe it. You can all kiss my white ass.

White a$$ ? I did not know you were a white boy?

What is the matter Ray, all the SAC or SAW boys back up at the point so you have no one with the same opinion to espouse your "white is right" pride? Go ask your Great Grandpa Moses about the "not one drop" rule then you will be humbled.

ThomasK wrote:
truthhurts wrote:
Hmmm. So now now you think both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are stupid. So tell me again, whey are you supporting McCain, the guy who has no plan (other than total victory, no matter how long it takes) to extricate us from EITHER war, and in fact pretty much wants to continue the status quo?

I'm not sure what your problem is. When I read and ponder what is going on in Iraq, I see many issues. I've said before that I didn't think going into Iraq was a "good idea". So I'm not supporting anyone concerning that.

I stated on this forum back in February that Iraq looked like a no win situation. There didn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel. I've also said, back then and numerous times, that I was very proud that our country would nominate a person of another race for canidacy for President, it's about time. I've always let my feelings known how I felt about the treatment of Blacks in this country. I've also posted before the feelings I had when I experienced Jim Crow laws first hand.

The surge happened. Work with the Iraqi government progressed. Iraqis themselves started to take control of their lives. Mosul, Basra, and Sadr City are examples of that. Suddenly there seems to be some hope. The Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, went from a 5-year pullout to much less than that. They have worked on reconciliation with the Sunnis. The Kurds seem to flourishing. None of this can be denied. What is worrisome is, will this continue? I hope so. For the Iraqi people as well as our troops.

So what's my problem with Obama? First, he was against the surge. He said it would never work. He did not support it. He put in an artificial timeline that wasn't even supported by the Iraqi government. I don't believe that is the way to handle the situation. You do, OK. Now he is all for a surge in Afghanistan. If surges don't work, why the about face? To me, it shows inconsistency with how he would deal with these problems.

McCain was not my first choice. He is the only other viable choice there is. I don't see these contradictions with him on this situation. The Middle East aside, the "other big" problem I have with Obama is his stance on trade. I believe his ideas on trade are not good for the country and the American worker. As far as the stress and mess our economy is in, I don't believe either can do much for the economy overall. There are so many factors and cycles that whatever they think they can do will be futile. In my opinion.

Now you 3 boys (or you all 1) can insult my intelligence and through out your bigot insults all you want. You really don't have much else you bring to the discussion other than that.

I see you lengthened your left crutch a bit too far Tommy! Your are about to fall over again, and again, and again.

truthhurts wrote:
What you said earlier? Oh, yeah, about you not liking either candidate. If that were true, one would expect you to do a fair amount of "McCain bashing" as well, but you don't, so I think we can dismiss that comment as self serving trash. You can't say you don't like either candidate but only bash one (Obama in your case) and have anyone take you seriously.

I didn't say I don't "like" either canidate. I said McCain wasn't my first choice and I have differences with Obama's stance on several issues. I like both men. I think Obama is smart, driven (in a good way), and he sincerely cares for people. I honor McCain's service to our country spanning decades. I think he is also smart and caring.
It's not the end of the world if either person gets elected. I'm just not certain I like the direction the world may take with either of them. I have to figure out which direction makes the most amount of sense for me.


truthhurts wrote:
You are really an enigma Thomas. Most of the McCain supporters here are Bush supporters who refuse to admit that Bush has done anything wrong...anything at all. Raymond, woody, RushReader, they all fit that mold. If they could have four or eight more years of Bush himself, they'd take it. Wouldn't that be hell on earth?

Well I hope my enigma is a good thing.
As far as Bush, I like what he has done on trade. The war, not so much. Working with Congress to balance the budget, not at all.
BTW, those "other guys". I'm not them.

truthhurts wrote:
You, on the other hand, admit that Iraq was a mistake from the get go and that the economy is a mess. You've also said in the past you agreed with the SCHIP bill that Bush vetoed, so you have issues with him there as well. Perhaps even more that I have not mentioned. McCain is not much different. In fact, I challenge you to show where McCain's positions on anything is significantly different than Bush's. Global warming perhaps, but that is about it.

You really pay attention to what I post. That's good, I guess. As far as SCHIP, what I agreed on was the issues I believed were important and needed changing. I'm not against SCHIP and said so numerous times. I've posted extensively about Utah's effort to improve child medical care in Utah. That is a very good thing.
As far as Bush vs McCain. Again, those things that are most important to me are trade, what we do in Iraq/Afghanistan and balancing the budget. I don't have much faith that either canidate can do much with the latter.

truthhurts wrote:
You remind me of the guy who lives in a corrupt, crime infested neighborhood who does not like it but is afraid of change because it might be different. That's the point...it's supposed to be different.

Change is a nice word. Depends on what that "change" is. I try to consider myself somewhat independent. I never vote a straight ticket. Truthfully, truth, most of the time I'm voting for what I consider the lesser of two evils. (I do not mean either person is evil, please do not take it that way.)


truthhurts wrote:
Yes, you are quite an enigma. Or simply terribly confused.

I'm a riddle or mixed up. I'm not sure either are a good thing. I try to be my own person. I suppose that can be very confusing.

You've proved that it can be confusing. All the luck in the world, Thomas.

eric hussein miami wrote:
You've proved that it can be confusing. All the luck in the world, Thomas.

For me, life is not simple black and white. If it is for you, that's great. And if you are absolutely sure the party you are aligned with is absolutely correct on every issue, then your straight party vote is what's best for you. Good luck with that, Eric. I certainly won't bow to your level and call you a bigot.