KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:

Are you going to try to claim that you and your wife have NEVER watched an R rated movie?


When we were married we promised each other we would follow the PRophets council, do you know the Prophets council in this regard Jaye?


Jaye said ..."rated are movies are porn anyways"

Yes, that's why we are counciled not to view the filth that is coming out more and more in the last days, you obviously don't follow this advice.
Heh...

I watch alot of "R" rated movies. Ever see "Fatal Attraction"? The Lethal Weapon movies? Some of my favorites..

By the way, if you keep throwing that word out, learn to spell it right. It is COUNSEL or COUNSELED.


Well why doesn't THAT surprise me you both don't follow the Prophets counsel.

You are both two peas in a pod.


You both ripped Marie Osmond a few months ago, only to find you Jaye does something similar, and you do also Kitkat.


The hypocrite twins.

Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
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Brother Kent...I am well aware of what that scripture means..


No, you weren't, you said this....


4. Live and let live falls more along the lines of 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'...or the Golden Rule, as Christ's teaching was derived from.


This is not accurate, it is warning those who think it's ok to sin a little here and there, and God will be ok with it.

You are incorrect...but that's nothing new.

Live and let live falls along the lines of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.

It also falls under the category of concentrating on living your own life as YOU see fit...and allowing others to live THEIR own life as THEY see fit.

A concept you have difficulty grasping.


Oh brother It's no wonder you can't grasp LDS doctrine, you misunderstand the simplist scriptures.


Funny thing is, the scripture I quoted doens't even say anything about "live and let live"


But... eat drink and be merry"


You are not even responding to the scripture I quoted.

Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:

Are you going to try to claim that you and your wife have NEVER watched an R rated movie?


When we were married we promised each other we would follow the PRophets council, do you know the Prophets council in this regard Jaye?


Jaye said ..."rated are movies are porn anyways"

Yes, that's why we are counciled not to view the filth that is coming out more and more in the last days, you obviously don't follow this advice.
Heh...

I watch alot of "R" rated movies. Ever see "Fatal Attraction"? The Lethal Weapon movies? Some of my favorites..

By the way, if you keep throwing that word out, learn to spell it right. It is COUNSEL or COUNSELED.


Well why doesn't THAT surprise me you both don't follow the Prophets counsel.

Your both two peas in a pod.


You both ripped Marie Osmond a few months ago, only to find you Jaye does something similar, and you do also Kitkat.


The hypocrite twins.
Hypocrite? You just admitted you don't always wear your own garments, so isn't it a little hypocritical of you to get on me? You're a damn joke.

You sit there at your computer "yelling" at people who you think don't follow the prophets counsel. And yet, look at yourself, being all judgmental. Hypocritical? You bet. You have no room at all to be judging anyone else, so get off your high horse.

KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
JLD wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Yes...it is possible that you could be wrong JLD. I don't remember ever promising not to take my shirt off while posing for a picture.

And I do, on occasion, take my shirt off if it gets hot enough on a parking lot we're paving or sealing.

That's why I don't wear the G's to work. And that's probably why LDS pro-athletes don't wear the G's to work.

Time and place for everything I suppose.

Which brings us to these young Mormon men who posed for the calender.

If they are still currently serving missions...so long as they don't go door to door preaching the gospel without a shirt...who really cares?

I suppose that there are those in the LDS faith who are letter of the law types who even wear their G's while they're having intercourse.

But I've never been a letter of the law kind of guy myself.

Have you?

Depends. If I make a covenant or a promise or a commitment I do my best to keep it. Again, I don't wear garments and haven't been through the temple. My parents have. They almost never remove the garments, it is their belief that they shouldn't be removed unless absolutely necessary. Obviously, there are times that can remove them...I don't think posing in those pictures is one of them. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong.

Do your parents swim or sunbathe?


Oh brother, you are so dense sometimes, you seriously don't understand that their are excpetions, and you think this calender falls in an exception? Wow, amazing.

I would say that if these young men were paid to model for the calender, it would fall under the EXCEPTIONS granted for certain careers.

Just as if an LDS woman was a professional model, and required to model underwear, lounge wear, or bikinis.

We've been over this a few times Kent. Just as you argued that Marie Osmond's choices of less than modest dresses for 'Dancing With the Stars' would fall under the demands of her career, or it was allowable for an LDS athlete to wear shorts and a tank top during participation in his sport.

And just as, at times when the heat turns up out on the parking lots, my crew and I sometime shed our shirts for comfort.

And before you leap to decry my sinful behavior in 'breaking my covenant to always wear my garments'...my Bishop and Stake President are well aware of this fact.


The fact that you can't see the difference between going swimming and these young men in photos, is telling.


The fact that you argued that Marie is wrong to do what she did with her garments, but now we find out that you don't even wear garments all day long while working, is also just another example of the hypocrite that you are.


By the way, couldn't you wear your garments, then take off your shirt while working, then replace the shirt and garment when able? I've worked in the sun and had jobs outside, and have done this many times, but to just not wear them all day long to me is not following the Bishops handbook, but that is for you to decide, but just shows your level of commitment to me.
What's very telling to me is that you supported Marie in removing her garments, but you're saying these young missionaries were wrong. Same diff!! Or did you just like the view of Marie better? Pervert.



If you don't see a difference between Marie and these missionaries, I can't help you.

Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
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1. The condo is given to them for as long as they live.

2. I wouldn't consider a condo worth $1.2 MILLION dollars in SLC to be a modest little cottage either..


The condo is "Given to them" or is it used as an office for their work and home?


You understand the difference right?


You don't seem to understand that it's not "given" to them as an asset they can sell, pass along to relatives right?

It's used by them while they are in service to the chuch, not "given' to them as something they own.


As I said you love to twist things to make the brethen look bad, just another example.

Now come on Kent...did I say anywhere that the Prophet could sell the condo?

They are given access to a condo worth $1.2 MILLION dollars to use until the day that they draw their last breath on the earth.

Now I provided you with documented evidence that Prophets and General Authorities had profited from the Church, and had borrowed funds for personal use from the Church coffers, and in some cases, never repaid their debts.

Address that if you will. Otherwise shut up...and go sit in a corner until you can behave like an adult.

KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:

Are you going to try to claim that you and your wife have NEVER watched an R rated movie?


When we were married we promised each other we would follow the PRophets council, do you know the Prophets council in this regard Jaye?


Jaye said ..."rated are movies are porn anyways"

Yes, that's why we are counciled not to view the filth that is coming out more and more in the last days, you obviously don't follow this advice.
Heh...

I watch alot of "R" rated movies. Ever see "Fatal Attraction"? The Lethal Weapon movies? Some of my favorites..

By the way, if you keep throwing that word out, learn to spell it right. It is COUNSEL or COUNSELED.


Well why doesn't THAT surprise me you both don't follow the Prophets counsel.

Your both two peas in a pod.


You both ripped Marie Osmond a few months ago, only to find you Jaye does something similar, and you do also Kitkat.


The hypocrite twins.
Hypocrite? You just admitted you don't always wear your own garments, so isn't it a little hypocritical of you to get on me? You're a damn joke.

You sit there at your computer "yelling" at people who you think don't follow the prophets counsel. And yet, look at yourself, being all judgmental. Hypocritical? You bet. You have no room at all to be judging anyone else, so get off your high horse.


Never said I do the same things, I said I follow the guidlines given in the Bishops handbook.

Now YOU are the one ripping Marie, while doing the same thing.