The importance of the BoM it is easily ascertained in an Ensign article by prophet Benson Nov 1986. Clearly the "Book of Mormon" trumps any conflicting work or book.
Article Link HERE


Quotes from the article:

This was the Prophet Joseph Smith's statement. He testified that "the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion" (Introduction to the Book of Mormon).

The third reason why the Book of Mormon is of such value to Latter-day Saints is given in the same statement by the Prophet Joseph Smith cited previously. He said, "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book" (History of the Church, 4:461).

KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Here's a little help Kitkat, since you think there the same. smirk.

Cornerstone---
The cornerstone concept is derived from the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire edifice.



Is a good analogy (oops you can't grasp these) for Christ, he was the first, and he determines the position of all else. Just as the definition says.

Keystone---

the wedge-shaped piece at the summit of an arch, regarded as holding the other pieces in place, without it the structure falls. (

Not a peice of the foundation at all. You are wrong.


One is part of the foundation, (cornerstone or Christ) The other is part of a structure that without it would fall apart. (keystone or BofM)without the Book of Mormon and Prophets, we'd be just another Bible thumping church. The church wouldn't exist without the Book of Mormon and Prophets. Just as Joseph said.


The analogy is strong, and why it is used by the Prophet Joseph, course I know you'll still deny this and say "whatever dubbs" LOL
LOL. You went to dictionary.com, didn't you? So did I. Scoll down and check out their synonyms. Foundation is listed for each.

By the way, I never said those two words are EXACTLY the same, so knock off the smirk.


Ok Kitkat, again, not my teaching, but the Prophets, just telling you what the church teaches on the subject of the Book of Mormon and it's imporantance to us. I don't buy that any scripture is above another, unless you show me a talk, a scripture that confirms your belief.

Dubbs wrote:
KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Here's a little help Kitkat, since you think there the same. smirk.

Cornerstone---
The cornerstone concept is derived from the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire edifice.



Is a good analogy (oops you can't grasp these) for Christ, he was the first, and he determines the position of all else. Just as the definition says.

Keystone---

the wedge-shaped piece at the summit of an arch, regarded as holding the other pieces in place, without it the structure falls. (

Not a peice of the foundation at all. You are wrong.


One is part of the foundation, (cornerstone or Christ) The other is part of a structure that without it would fall apart. (keystone or BofM)without the Book of Mormon and Prophets, we'd be just another Bible thumping church. The church wouldn't exist without the Book of Mormon and Prophets. Just as Joseph said.


The analogy is strong, and why it is used by the Prophet Joseph, course I know you'll still deny this and say "whatever dubbs" LOL
LOL. You went to dictionary.com, didn't you? So did I. Scoll down and check out their synonyms. Foundation is listed for each.

By the way, I never said those two words are EXACTLY the same, so knock off the smirk.


Ok Kitkat, again, not my teaching, but the Prophets, just telling you what the church teaches on the subject of the Book of Mormon and it's imporantance to us. I don't buy that any scripture is above another, unless you show me a talk, a scripture that confirms your belief.
I never said there was scripture to support that. I said it's my belief.

Read, for heaven's sake, and start to comprehend what you read.

Dubbs wrote:
Sir John the Apostate wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Sir John the Apostate wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
You have never pointed what supposedly "plain and precious parts" were removed.



Read the BofM, D&C, Pearl of Great price, and listen to the Prophets to find out.

Go ahead Percy, your the "expert".

Prove your point and, show us the parts that have been removed. Don't post your opinion but, show us the historical facts and documentation.


Step up or shut up Percy AKA Bishop Kent AKA TBM AKA Dumbya AKA Dubs AKA Dubbs etc etc etc.......



Here's a partial list of the top of my head, course if you were sincere about finding truth, you would read it for yourself, since I know your not sincere about finding truth, I know you won't.


Temples
Priesthood restoration
Need for authority
Baptism for the dead
Godhead is not a trinity
Nature of God
Where we came from
Why were here
Where we are going after this life
Where Christ went during his three days of his body in the tomb
Need for Prophets
Christ set up a church while on earth
Need for baptism
Need for works and faith
Why Christ was baptised
The atonement and what it is
The sacrament and it's importance
Children don't need baptism before 8

Could go on, but that's a good start.

OK where are the historical facts and, documentation I ask you for Percy?




There are no historical facts, I have something better, the spirit of God telling me truth.

THOSE PLAIN AND PRECIOUS THINGS

What did Mormonism really restore?

"...He (Joseph Smith) has brought forth the Book of Mormon...; has sent the fulness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth..." (D&C 135:3)

"I (Joseph Smith) told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (History of the Church, Volume 4, Page 461)

It is the LDS concept that the Bible is the Word of God as far as it is translated correctly, that is, what is left of the Bible after many Plain and Precious Things were removed by the great and abominable church.

The Mormon also knows that the Book of Mormon is the Word of God. It did not have many Plain and Precious Things removed. It did not suffer at the hands of many translations. It contains Christ's teachings to His other sheep.

"And now it came to pass that when Jesus had told these things he expounded them unto the multitude; and he did expound all things unto them, both great and small." (3 Nephi 16:1)

"And he did expound all things, even from the beginning until the time that he should come in his gloryóyea, even all things which should come upon the face of the earth, even until...the heavens and the earth should pass away." (3 Nephi 26:3)

He (Jesus) sets a strong position that His church shall be called by His name (3 Nephi 27:6,7) and built in His Gospel. He continued to affirm this:

"But if it be called in my name then it is my church, it it be so that they are built upon my gospel." (3 Nephi 27:8)

"Verily I say to you, that ye are build upon my gospel; therefore ye shall call whatsoever things ye do call, in my name; therefore if ye call upon the Father, for the church, if it be in my name the Father will hear you." (3 Nephi 27:9)

He clearly states that His church will bear his name and teach His gospel, all of which He has given the Nephites, whose doctrine is built upon it.

But Jesus also set forth a judgement of what He taught. In 3 Nephi 27:10,11, He says that if it is not build upon His gospel (given to them in complete detail) and is built upon the works of a man or the devilóit will give "joy in their works for a season, and by and by the end cometh, and they are hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence there is no return."

1 Nephi 13:26-36 says that the "great and abominable church" (verse 26) took away from the gospel many parts and covenants which were Plain and Precious, in order to pervert the ways of the Lord and blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the people. The Bible was corrupted because of this (verse 28). What were some of those Plain and Precious Things? Are these those that separate Mormonism from the Christianity that grew out of the past? Are these not the law of eternal progression, salvation, baptism for the dead, the nature of God, temples, and polygamy?

The Lord God (Elohim) promised that a day would come when these things will be restored (verse 32) after the Gentiles stumble about because of this act of the "mother of harlots" taking the most Plain and Precious Things of the Gospel of the Lamb (verse 34).

The Lamb of God (Jesus) says exactly how this restoration of all the Plain and Precious Things will come about. In verse 35 He says He will manifest Himself to the Seed of Nephi and they shall write many thingsóall the precious things taken away by that churchóand even after they (your seed) are all gone. These things shall be hidden up to come forth unto the Gentiles.

Verse 36 says, "And in them shall be written my gospel., saith the Lamb, and my rock (word "rock" refers to ëgospel'ósee D&C 11:24) and my salvation."

Therefore, the Plain and Precious Things taken away by the great and abominable church must be restored in the Book of Mormon. This is verified by Latter-day revelations also:

"For in them are all things written concerning the foundation of my church, my gospel, and my rock." (D&C 18:4)

"And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thine own property, but impart it freely to the printing of the Book of Mormon, which contains the truth and the Word of God." (D&C 19:26)

"And gave him power from on high, by the means which were before prepared, to translate the Book of Mormon; which contains a record of a fallen people, and the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles and to the Jews also." (D&C 20:8&9)

"And again, the elders, priests and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel." (D&C 42:12)

What are the things contained in the fulness of the gospel, the Book of Mormon, which are lost, hidden and not contained in the Bible?

By the Word of God, they must be in the Book of Mormon. Where are these teaching of Mormonism? The critical doctrines that separate Mormonism from the Christianity that was debased for the loss of "many Plain and Precious Things" from its scriptures by the "great and abominable church" are listed here:

God has a body of flesh and bones.

God is an exalted man.

God is a product of eternal progression.

The plurality of gods.

God "organized" the world rather than "created" it.

These is no eternal hell and punishment.

Men can become gods.

"Intelligences" are eternal.

Pre-existing spirits of men.

Marriage for eternity.

Polygamy is not an abomination in the sight of God.

Three degrees of glory.

A "Mother" in heaven.

A Melchizedek Priesthood consisting of the offices of Elder, Seventy and High Priest.

Baptism For The Dead

The LDS Temple Ritual

The Wearing of "temple garments"

An Aaronic Priesthood consisting of the offices of Deacon, Teacher, and Priest.

The functions and offices of Evangelist, Bishoprics, Stake Presidencies, Assistants to the Twelve, a First Presidency, and a President of the Church.

The Book of Mormon is the "Stick of Joseph."

Either these doctrines must be found in the Book of Mormon or Mormonism is subject to the words of Jesus in His judgement of 3 Nephi 27:11; Alma 13:20; 2 Nephi 28:15; 2 Nephi 28:16, 21-24, 25.

Not only can these things not be found in the Book of Mormon, but the doctrine of the Book of Mormon is ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO SOME OF THESE "LDS ONLY" DOCTRINES! The Book of Mormon teaches AGAINST THESE LDS DOCTRINES:

ETERNAL PROGRESSION:

Alma 41:8

3 Nephi 24:6

Mormon 9:9-10, 19

Moroni 8:18

SALVATION:

2 Nephi 9:21-23

Mosiah 5:7

Mosiah 27:24-26

Alma 11:40-41

Helaman 5:9-11

3 Nephi 11:33

Mormon 9:23-24

Ether 3:14

Ether 4:18

Moroni 8:23

BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD

Alma 34:32, 35

POLYGAMY:

Jacob 1:15

Jacob 2:22-27

Jacob 3:5

Mosiah 11:2

Ether 10:5

TEMPLES, OATHS:

Mormon 8:27

2 Nephi 9:9

2 Nephi 26:22

Alma 34:36

Alma 37:23,31

GOD ORGANIZED THE

WORLD RATHER THAN

CREATED IT:

Mormon 9:17

THE NATURE OF GOD:

2 Nephi 11:7

2 Nephi 26:12

2 Nephi 31:21

Mosiah 7:27

Mosiah 13:34

Mosiah 15:1-5

Mosiah 16:15

Alma 11:26-33, 38, 39, and 44

Alma 34:32, 35

3 Nephi 11:27, 40

Don't you think it strange that the doctrine of the Book of Mormon and the doctrine of the Bible both contradict the Mormon Theology? In a court of law evidence is based upon the testimony of several witnesses. Whatever witness there is for the Mormon Theology cannot stand against these witnesses, but must, by its very nature be supported by both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. The evidence of both these Standard Words witnesses against the Mormon Theology.

As my dear friend Dubbs will tell you, I'm no scriptorium. Uncle Bud I like your list. And by the time I read all your scripture references I will be a scriptorium.

But as my real friend John has told me, religion and politics are a bad mix. I've experienced that all too well in this forum.

What is the true nature of God? Just who is He? If He exists, what in the world did He create? And why? The nature of man? What a messed up creation it seems to have turned out. Just look at our world today. Most of the problems seem to have a basis in a belief in God and the rest, the foibles of man.

So what do I know. I don't know. All I know is my family is as good as it gets. And to me, this list exists for my family. This is as good/bad as my testimony gets.

Oh yah, and the next important thing, to love one another. (I think I read that in the scriptures.)

Uncle_Bud wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Sir John the Apostate wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Sir John the Apostate wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
You have never pointed what supposedly "plain and precious parts" were removed.



Read the BofM, D&C, Pearl of Great price, and listen to the Prophets to find out.

Go ahead Percy, your the "expert".

Prove your point and, show us the parts that have been removed. Don't post your opinion but, show us the historical facts and documentation.


Step up or shut up Percy AKA Bishop Kent AKA TBM AKA Dumbya AKA Dubs AKA Dubbs etc etc etc.......



Here's a partial list of the top of my head, course if you were sincere about finding truth, you would read it for yourself, since I know your not sincere about finding truth, I know you won't.


Temples
Priesthood restoration
Need for authority
Baptism for the dead
Godhead is not a trinity
Nature of God
Where we came from
Why were here
Where we are going after this life
Where Christ went during his three days of his body in the tomb
Need for Prophets
Christ set up a church while on earth
Need for baptism
Need for works and faith
Why Christ was baptised
The atonement and what it is
The sacrament and it's importance
Children don't need baptism before 8

Could go on, but that's a good start.

OK where are the historical facts and, documentation I ask you for Percy?




There are no historical facts, I have something better, the spirit of God telling me truth.

THOSE PLAIN AND PRECIOUS THINGS

What did Mormonism really restore?

"...He (Joseph Smith) has brought forth the Book of Mormon...; has sent the fulness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth..." (D&C 135:3)

"I (Joseph Smith) told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (History of the Church, Volume 4, Page 461)

It is the LDS concept that the Bible is the Word of God as far as it is translated correctly, that is, what is left of the Bible after many Plain and Precious Things were removed by the great and abominable church.

The Mormon also knows that the Book of Mormon is the Word of God. It did not have many Plain and Precious Things removed. It did not suffer at the hands of many translations. It contains Christ's teachings to His other sheep.

"And now it came to pass that when Jesus had told these things he expounded them unto the multitude; and he did expound all things unto them, both great and small." (3 Nephi 16:1)

"And he did expound all things, even from the beginning until the time that he should come in his gloryóyea, even all things which should come upon the face of the earth, even until...the heavens and the earth should pass away." (3 Nephi 26:3)

He (Jesus) sets a strong position that His church shall be called by His name (3 Nephi 27:6,7) and built in His Gospel. He continued to affirm this:

"But if it be called in my name then it is my church, it it be so that they are built upon my gospel." (3 Nephi 27:8)

"Verily I say to you, that ye are build upon my gospel; therefore ye shall call whatsoever things ye do call, in my name; therefore if ye call upon the Father, for the church, if it be in my name the Father will hear you." (3 Nephi 27:9)

He clearly states that His church will bear his name and teach His gospel, all of which He has given the Nephites, whose doctrine is built upon it.

But Jesus also set forth a judgement of what He taught. In 3 Nephi 27:10,11, He says that if it is not build upon His gospel (given to them in complete detail) and is built upon the works of a man or the devilóit will give "joy in their works for a season, and by and by the end cometh, and they are hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence there is no return."

1 Nephi 13:26-36 says that the "great and abominable church" (verse 26) took away from the gospel many parts and covenants which were Plain and Precious, in order to pervert the ways of the Lord and blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the people. The Bible was corrupted because of this (verse 28). What were some of those Plain and Precious Things? Are these those that separate Mormonism from the Christianity that grew out of the past? Are these not the law of eternal progression, salvation, baptism for the dead, the nature of God, temples, and polygamy?

The Lord God (Elohim) promised that a day would come when these things will be restored (verse 32) after the Gentiles stumble about because of this act of the "mother of harlots" taking the most Plain and Precious Things of the Gospel of the Lamb (verse 34).

The Lamb of God (Jesus) says exactly how this restoration of all the Plain and Precious Things will come about. In verse 35 He says He will manifest Himself to the Seed of Nephi and they shall write many thingsóall the precious things taken away by that churchóand even after they (your seed) are all gone. These things shall be hidden up to come forth unto the Gentiles.

Verse 36 says, "And in them shall be written my gospel., saith the Lamb, and my rock (word "rock" refers to ëgospel'ósee D&C 11:24) and my salvation."

Therefore, the Plain and Precious Things taken away by the great and abominable church must be restored in the Book of Mormon. This is verified by Latter-day revelations also:

"For in them are all things written concerning the foundation of my church, my gospel, and my rock." (D&C 18:4)

"And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thine own property, but impart it freely to the printing of the Book of Mormon, which contains the truth and the Word of God." (D&C 19:26)

"And gave him power from on high, by the means which were before prepared, to translate the Book of Mormon; which contains a record of a fallen people, and the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles and to the Jews also." (D&C 20:8&9)

"And again, the elders, priests and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel." (D&C 42:12)

What are the things contained in the fulness of the gospel, the Book of Mormon, which are lost, hidden and not contained in the Bible?

By the Word of God, they must be in the Book of Mormon. Where are these teaching of Mormonism? The critical doctrines that separate Mormonism from the Christianity that was debased for the loss of "many Plain and Precious Things" from its scriptures by the "great and abominable church" are listed here:

God has a body of flesh and bones.

God is an exalted man.

God is a product of eternal progression.

The plurality of gods.

God "organized" the world rather than "created" it.

These is no eternal hell and punishment.

Men can become gods.

"Intelligences" are eternal.

Pre-existing spirits of men.

Marriage for eternity.

Polygamy is not an abomination in the sight of God.

Three degrees of glory.

A "Mother" in heaven.

A Melchizedek Priesthood consisting of the offices of Elder, Seventy and High Priest.

Baptism For The Dead

The LDS Temple Ritual

The Wearing of "temple garments"

An Aaronic Priesthood consisting of the offices of Deacon, Teacher, and Priest.

The functions and offices of Evangelist, Bishoprics, Stake Presidencies, Assistants to the Twelve, a First Presidency, and a President of the Church.

The Book of Mormon is the "Stick of Joseph."

Either these doctrines must be found in the Book of Mormon or Mormonism is subject to the words of Jesus in His judgement of 3 Nephi 27:11; Alma 13:20; 2 Nephi 28:15; 2 Nephi 28:16, 21-24, 25.

Not only can these things not be found in the Book of Mormon, but the doctrine of the Book of Mormon is ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO SOME OF THESE "LDS ONLY" DOCTRINES! The Book of Mormon teaches AGAINST THESE LDS DOCTRINES:

ETERNAL PROGRESSION:

Alma 41:8

3 Nephi 24:6

Mormon 9:9-10, 19

Moroni 8:18

SALVATION:

2 Nephi 9:21-23

Mosiah 5:7

Mosiah 27:24-26

Alma 11:40-41

Helaman 5:9-11

3 Nephi 11:33

Mormon 9:23-24

Ether 3:14

Ether 4:18

Moroni 8:23

BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD

Alma 34:32, 35

POLYGAMY:

Jacob 1:15

Jacob 2:22-27

Jacob 3:5

Mosiah 11:2

Ether 10:5

TEMPLES, OATHS:

Mormon 8:27

2 Nephi 9:9

2 Nephi 26:22

Alma 34:36

Alma 37:23,31

GOD ORGANIZED THE

WORLD RATHER THAN

CREATED IT:

Mormon 9:17

THE NATURE OF GOD:

2 Nephi 11:7

2 Nephi 26:12

2 Nephi 31:21

Mosiah 7:27

Mosiah 13:34

Mosiah 15:1-5

Mosiah 16:15

Alma 11:26-33, 38, 39, and 44

Alma 34:32, 35

3 Nephi 11:27, 40

Don't you think it strange that the doctrine of the Book of Mormon and the doctrine of the Bible both contradict the Mormon Theology? In a court of law evidence is based upon the testimony of several witnesses. Whatever witness there is for the Mormon Theology cannot stand against these witnesses, but must, by its very nature be supported by both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. The evidence of both these Standard Words witnesses against the Mormon Theology.



Seen this before, the anti's are running out of material.


Funny thing is most of those scriptures don't even apply to the topic it says it's supposed to. Or are a misinterpreation of the anti's. Course how would Uncle Buck know that, he just read it and took the anti's word that it was accurate.