Lovie wrote:
Here dubbs my friend I’ll help ya out a little:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Church_reaction_to_Hofmann_forgeries


18 October 1995

After Hofmann's lies and murders were revealed, President Hinckley said:
I frankly admit that Hofmann tricked us. He also tricked experts from New York to Utah, however. We bought those documents only after the assurance that they were genuine.

We need to remember the fact that Jerald and Sandra Tanner knew that these documents were forgeries right from the start and they even tried to warn Hinckley and the Mormon Church. This proves that these good Christian believers obviously have more divine guidance.

Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Call Jean and find out.

You won't because you are cowardly.

Give me your real name, I'll call her.

You don't need it, cowardly lion. Just tell her that you want to complain about somebody spending time on this site. Her IT folks can identify who is going on it without any problem.

But she will want to confirm that you are who you say you are.

Call her.

Coward.

You hit a man unaware and then run away.

You are Dubbs/TBM/Utocoman.

You reveal your wife's pet name of "slut" here.

You lie and lie and lie.

You won't call Jean because it will get you into great trouble.

You are the coward, Dubbs, that's right.

And you won't reveal your real name, because then we would find out...

You work at the FHC,

you are not a professor

you are from SLC

Not from the south.

Tell you what, Dubbs.

Let's pick one person whom we both believe is honest and will tell the truth. We each will reveal ourselves to that person, who will then be able to verify that I am and what I say I am, and can do the same for you. (I have no doubt I will pass and that you won't).

Once we do that, then you can call Jean. And she will want to know exactly who you are. Our trusted friend will reveal your verified information only to her.

You up for it, podjo, you got the balls, hmmmm?

Tell you what, Tell Kitkat or Jaye or someone you trust your name, and I will get it from them, and I will then call. Deal? Balls?

I would not deign to be instrumental in revealing Wren's name to a proven stalker like you Dubbs.

Not even if Wren volunteered his name to me and actually asked me to reveal it to you.

Especially since you recently voiced your desire to perpetrate physical harm upon his person.

Oh Brother Jaye, read the thread before posting, no one's asking you to reveal his name, He said he would give his name to someone he trusts, I said give it to you, let you call the FHC and see if he works there. Try to follow.

Better do a spot of reading yourself there son.

You said..."Tell you what, Tell Kitkat or Jaye or someone you trust your name, and I will get it from them, and I will then call. Deal? Balls?"

BLogan wrote:
Lovie wrote:
Here dubbs my friend I’ll help ya out a little:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Church_reaction_to_Hofmann_forgeries


18 October 1995

After Hofmann's lies and murders were revealed, President Hinckley said:
I frankly admit that Hofmann tricked us. He also tricked experts from New York to Utah, however. We bought those documents only after the assurance that they were genuine.

We need to remember the fact that Jerald and Sandra Tanner knew that these documents were forgeries right from the start and they even tried to warn Hinckley and the Mormon Church. This proves that these good Christian believers obviously have more divine guidance.


Dubbs believes that THE THINKING HAS BEEN DONE FOR HIM!

BLogan wrote:
Lovie wrote:
Here dubbs my friend I’ll help ya out a little:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Church_reaction_to_Hofmann_forgeries


18 October 1995

After Hofmann's lies and murders were revealed, President Hinckley said:
I frankly admit that Hofmann tricked us. He also tricked experts from New York to Utah, however. We bought those documents only after the assurance that they were genuine.

We need to remember the fact that Jerald and Sandra Tanner knew that these documents were forgeries right from the start and they even tried to warn Hinckley and the Mormon Church. This proves that these good Christian believers obviously have more divine guidance.

Mr. Blogan sir, how are you?
I personaly don't like the Tanners, I saw Jerald at a lecture about 10 years ago and wasn't impressed. How ever If you have read my later posts, you will see how I fill about the whole mess. I was just trying to help poor drowing dubbs out.

kinda fill sorry for the guy. we were a bit harsh today

Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
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I will attempt to clarify for your edification.

The subject was apostasy.

According to the definition in Dictionary.Com:

"Apostasy = a total desertion of or departure from one's religion, principles, party, cause, etc."


Am I an apostate as you have claimed, by either definition

Jaye, (rolls eyes) are you actually reading before posting? The subject was the apostacy of the early Christian Church, not your personal apotacy. ?


Now...since I clarified your misunderstanding of that term...I will answer what my posted quotation of these admonitions of Paul written by Timothy had to do with the topic of apostasy we were discussing.

Throughout the first and second books of Timothy one will find exhortations containing instructions regarding proper behavior for Christians.

But again Jaye, we were discussing Timothy's warning about the church apostacizing. Not his other words, which you cherry picked a few unrelated versus, and went on an unlreated tangent. Get it?

Look who's taking about cherry picking. BTW...these aren't Timothy's warnings...they are Pauls warnings.

The Book of 1 Timothy was written by the Apostle Paul.

The Book of First Timothy was written between 62-66 A.D.

Paul wrote to Timothy to encourage him in his responsibility for overseeing the work of the Ephesian church and possibly the other churches in the province of Asia.

This letter was written in order to lay the foundation for ordaining elders, and provides guidance for ordaining people into offices of the church. First Timothy is simply a leadership manual for the organization and administration of the early Christian Church.

The Second Epistle to Timothy, written in early 2nd century AD, contained the admonitions of Paul...but is is unknown who the author is.

Uncle_Bud wrote:
BLogan wrote:
Lovie wrote:
Here dubbs my friend I’ll help ya out a little:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Church_reaction_to_Hofmann_forgeries


18 October 1995

After Hofmann's lies and murders were revealed, President Hinckley said:
I frankly admit that Hofmann tricked us. He also tricked experts from New York to Utah, however. We bought those documents only after the assurance that they were genuine.

We need to remember the fact that Jerald and Sandra Tanner knew that these documents were forgeries right from the start and they even tried to warn Hinckley and the Mormon Church. This proves that these good Christian believers obviously have more divine guidance.


Dubbs believes that THE THINKING HAS BEEN DONE FOR HIM!

Good to see you Uncle_Bud, sadly Dubbs is obviously one of those who blindly follows without questioning what he is being spoonfed. remember God's word the holy Bible warns us of another gospel.