myomyomy wrote:
ThomasK ,
Your condemnation of John D. Lee is contrary to the Prophet David O McKay and 1st presidency. They said in 1961, I paraphrase, "After reviewing all the facts, we reinstate all of John D. Lee's temple blessings."

I could care less if you think Lee is a saint. He and his band of MORMON thugs murdered innocent men women and children. And they did it in the name of God.

myomyomy wrote:
So if you have judged Lee unrighteously, you have in fact gone against the words of a modern day prophet.

I'm not judging him. I'm commenting on his actions. You're the judgemental one here and it's getting old. Using a Prophet for your unrighteous indignation is blasphemy.


myomyomy wrote:
It seems that the church leadership had the courage to try to reverse a wrong.

How do you reverse the lives lost?

myomyomy wrote:
The problem is that they have failed to teach its members a correct version of the massacre, so many who fail to read up on the massacre still accept misconstrued information.

Did the band of MORMON thugs or did they not murder those men women and children? If that is wrong, prove it with your so-called facts. Well?


myomyomy wrote:
I hope this new book will be read by church members, since other books that have been written are usually labled Anti-mormon. So members will not read them. The Church's book may not tell the full story but is a good faith effort by the church to correct past gross errors about the massacre.

Doesn't change the fact that the massacre happened. Whatever "errors" there are doesn't change the fact that all those people were murdered. By a bunch of MORMON men.

myomyomy wrote:
John D. Lee was involved, and should not be exhonorated. He deserved to be executed for his role in the massacre.

That's exactly my point. But you're elated he "might" have had his temple endowments restored.

myomyomy wrote:
Because he was the only one, people assume he was the sole conspirator along with the Piute indians.

You're the one assuming. There were other so-called saints lining up the innocent women and children, putting a gun to their head and pulling the trigger. That's a fact, isn't it know-it-all?

myomyomy wrote:
At least Lee was executed for the crime, everyone else got off scotch free for 150 years.(an indictment is not the same is being brought to trial.)

You sound proud of that fact. I thinks it pathetic.

myomyomy wrote:
One thing in Lee's favor he could have incriminated BY or George A. and he could have saved his own life. But sacrificed all indefending and building up th kingdom of God, even his own life if necessary.

That's not a fact, that's your opinion. Murdering people isn't exactly what you call building up.

myomyomy wrote:
Think about it. What would have happened to the church if they would have gotten to BY?

Maybe they should have. Nothing could have made you happier.

myomyomy wrote:
In the end the LDS Church would have been better off.

You think you know so much why don't you run for Prophet. You're good at second guessing. Or at least you think you are with your high and mighty know-it-all attitude.

Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Just Reading wrote:

Poor Dubbs the attack happend in the early morning hours of September 7th and all were dead by the 11th of September,.

Wow, it now happened on the 7th and not the 11th? You are seriously one of the most inacurate people I know bigdumby.

Wren can you correct him that it happend on the 11th?

It began as an attack on Sept.7th in the early morning hours as the emigrants sat eating breakfast, quickly turned into a siege, and eventually culminated on September 11, 1857, in the execution of the unarmed emigrants after their surrender.

John was right.


"LOL" Dubbs should really look up the facts before he writes "LOL"


Dubbs wrote:
You are seriously one of the most inacurate people I know bigdumby

Dubbs the above statement seeing how it was "YOU" who was inacurate like most of the time, it means you were talking to yourself right "LOL"

Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
[b]
John D.Lee was, at one time, a member of the Danites. This is a fact he published HIMSELF in his journals.


Then post your evidence, or quit doing "the Wren" and making claims that are not backed up by evidence.

Look it up yourself Dubbs. It's easy to do...I promise.

Just google John D.Lee and read all of the available articles.

Quit being lazy and man up.

Oy Vey...

You and Wren do the same nonsense, make claims, then tell people to look it up on their own. Your claim, your proof should be given or it is hollow words, but that's typical of you and Wren.

Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Betzz wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Lovie wrote:
[band, as smart wenches(thats what they call us women) they have stoped talking to him.

Actually they haven't, Kitkat just today asked me a question, course she forgets I no longer speak to her, Blondie still responds to some of my posts, to do her typical smariness that she is well versed in, Betz has run off like scared kittykat, who knows where she is.

Notice the forum is less smary with them gone? Or without me having to respond to their insults and smary comments?

No, I didn't run off, boy. My son is on leave for a week. I'm actually spending time with him. You should try the same with your family once in a while.

Ahhh, spending time with family to the point as soon as I mention your name, you show up. How convienant.

Yeah...as convenient as your constant posting during your little family vacation.


Yes, and you rip me for it, yet say nothing to her, typical.

It is hilarious how within minutes of me posting once about her in weeks, she shows up, frickin hiliarous, shows she's pretty much ALWAYS watching. And shows she's googleing the internet, when he family is in town. Yet she get's on me for posting a half hour while on a weeks vacation.

Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
lovie and mymo, I really don't care if you want condemn the Church and it's leaders. That's your beliefs and your welcome to them.

I've expressed my feelings towards the actions of the perpetrators. If you don't like that, I don't care.

What I find reprehensible is your judgmental attitudes towards me. And your attack on my character. Doing that to "make your point" is rude and distasteful.

Lovie has two faces, one she plays when everyone agrees with her, the real Dovie comes out when you cross her. Reaarrrreeeee.

"Reaarrrreeeee"?

Translation please...anyone?


sound a kat makes as it swipes it's paws at it's prey.

I've got three cats at home, and I've never heard any of them make such a sound when they're attacking their prey.

Try again.



Then they must not fight, here ya go cliffy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG_1K2rdII&feature=related

You didn't say anything about fighting cats Dubbs...you said it was the sound a cat makes as it swipes it's paws at it's prey.

Make up your flippin' mind will you?

Oy vey, use your imagination cliffy. You'd argue with a dogs ass if it farted in your diretion.