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I didn't really care for Saddam Hussien. I am glad he is out of power.
I didn't really care for Richard Nixon. I am glad he is out of power.
 
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A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?
 
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politics4me wrote:

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"As for Senator Orrin Hatch and Robert Bennett from my perspective they are outstanding Utah Citizens advocates."

You have got to be kidding me. Hatch an outstanding Utah citizen? He doesn't even come to Utah anymore. He'd prefer to spend more of his time on a boat in Mass. with the Kennedy family. I still like Bennett, but he made a huge mistake backing the President's amnesty bill.

There are rules in politics. In this situation, Rocky Anderson is breaking one of the biggest rules. He may not like Pres. Bush, and he is welcome to say that at any time, but to invite someone protest the President. Like it or not, that is just something you don't do. If you have enough influnce, you get someone else to do your dirty work for you. This will not win him any brownie points in the eyes of the people, even in Salt Lake. People may not like Bush, but there's enough that do like him, that won't forget Rocky's treason.


I live in Utah but outside the Salt Lake Area. I already liked Rocky, but this does earn him brownie points with me. I respect him not only for being opposed to Bush's policies and being active in the protest, but also for not doing the Republican thing and having a henchman do his dirty work as you've suggested. Rocky has some honesty and self-respect, unlike so many republicans who would have smeared a visiting Democrat while pretending to show respect publicly. It says something very negative about you that you would prefer appearance and deceit to honesty.


But this is deceit. Rocky has invited someone to speak for him. This is all wrong. A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure. This is just not the way things are done. It doesn't matter what side your on. If Rocky Anderson has wanted to put together a Forum on the Iraq war and invite Soldiers from the war, Some Generals, and Cindy Sheehan, so the public could hear both sides then that would have been okay. But for him to actively invite her to protest Pres. Bush is bad form for any politician. There are rules that you just don't break, and this is one of them. Rocky is a traitor, and will never win another political office in his lifetime. People want their politicians to be objective, not radical.


Have you ever seen a political campaign. Your logic is poor and I question your belief in the ideals this nation was built on.
 
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proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:
A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?


He lives in Totalitarian America!! At Lexington he would have pelted the venerated Patriots with buckshot and cheered the Red Coats.
 
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Re: Rocky's protest embarassing Utahns in front of Bush 2 Years ago Karma: 0  
gopherus wrote:

politics4me wrote:

gopherus wrote:

politics4me wrote:

"As for Senator Orrin Hatch and Robert Bennett from my perspective they are outstanding Utah Citizens advocates."

You have got to be kidding me. Hatch an outstanding Utah citizen? He doesn't even come to Utah anymore. He'd prefer to spend more of his time on a boat in Mass. with the Kennedy family. I still like Bennett, but he made a huge mistake backing the President's amnesty bill.

There are rules in politics. In this situation, Rocky Anderson is breaking one of the biggest rules. He may not like Pres. Bush, and he is welcome to say that at any time, but to invite someone protest the President. Like it or not, that is just something you don't do. If you have enough influnce, you get someone else to do your dirty work for you. This will not win him any brownie points in the eyes of the people, even in Salt Lake. People may not like Bush, but there's enough that do like him, that won't forget Rocky's treason.


I live in Utah but outside the Salt Lake Area. I already liked Rocky, but this does earn him brownie points with me. I respect him not only for being opposed to Bush's policies and being active in the protest, but also for not doing the Republican thing and having a henchman do his dirty work as you've suggested. Rocky has some honesty and self-respect, unlike so many republicans who would have smeared a visiting Democrat while pretending to show respect publicly. It says something very negative about you that you would prefer appearance and deceit to honesty.


But this is deceit. Rocky has invited someone to speak for him. This is all wrong. A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure. This is just not the way things are done. It doesn't matter what side your on. If Rocky Anderson has wanted to put together a Forum on the Iraq war and invite Soldiers from the war, Some Generals, and Cindy Sheehan, so the public could hear both sides then that would have been okay. But for him to actively invite her to protest Pres. Bush is bad form for any politician. There are rules that you just don't break, and this is one of them. Rocky is a traitor, and will never win another political office in his lifetime. People want their politicians to be objective, not radical.


Have you ever seen a political campaign. Your logic is poor and I question your belief in the ideals this nation was built on.


I've worked on several political campaigns, and my logic is not flawed. I said that Rocky can say what he likes. And the electorate can vote to get rid of him to because of what he says. If Rocky wants to protest the President, than he should protest the President. He shouldn't be inviting anyone to do it for him. Even Martin Luther King Jr. understood this when he personally protested against the President at the time. He got people to join him, but he didn't have people protest for him. Rocky Anderson is a traitor, and will never be in Public Office again!
 
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qbald wrote:

I didn't really care for Saddam Hussien. I am glad he is out of power.


You should care I am glad Rocky cares enough to stand up.

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 2,926 and counting

WMD's found ZERO


God Bless our Soldiers

(Which I once was in Papa Bushes War)
 
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