politics4me wrote:

proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:

Even Martin Luther King Jr. understood this when he personally protested against the President at the time. He got people to join him, but he didn't have people protest for him.

He had many, many people protest along side him.

Just as Rocky is protesting along side Sheehan.

Explain the difference.


Martin Luther King Jr. didn't have someone come and speak for him. He had people join him that also spoke out. If Rocky wants to protest and committ political suicide, then he should protest himself, not invite someone to do it for him. But then with this act of inviting someone else to protest for him, he's already comitting political suicide.

There will be a few that will like what Rocky's done, but in the eyes of the majority, he will never be in office again.

Rocky should just bite the bullet and protest himself, and see who joins him.


He's not running for Mayor again; I would bet he's probably decided not to run for any office again. Do you ever read the news? He is probably going to do more advocacy work for environmental and human rights causes . . . in the private sector.

Rocky's future is one of service to humanity. But you can bet if he were running again he wouldn't change a thing about his actions today and the good people of SLC would probably still give him a third term as mayor.

BishopRick wrote:

politics4me wrote:



Martin Luther King Jr. didn't have someone come and speak for him. He had people join him that also spoke out. If Rocky wants to protest and committ political suicide, then he should protest himself, not invite someone to do it for him. But then with this act of inviting someone else to protest for him, he's already comitting political suicide.

There will be a few that will like what Rocky's done, but in the eyes of the majority, he will never be in office again.

Rocky should just bite the bullet and protest himself, and see who joins him.


I disagree with your take on Rocky. He is well-liked by the majority of Salt Lake City residents. He is voluntarily not running for another term, but many believe he would win again if he chose to run. There is a much different political energy in Salt Lake...one that has voted in a gay representative, Scott McCoy (who is doing a great job, IMHO). I have friends (many would question that, I'm sure) in politics, and they joke that the further away from the SL temple you go (staying in Utah), the more conservative and republican you are. Seems a bit ironic, doesn't it?


One correction BR . . . Scott McCoy was appointed to his present office as a Senator. It is likely that he will retain his seat this year through the will of the people.

Jackie Biskupski, however, has been voted in several times as a State Rep. It is also likely that Christine Johnson will be voted in as the third openly gay legislator this year.

bx10475 wrote:

bbboss wrote:

bx10475 wrote:

Woody, you seem very comfortable calling liberals "baby killers." Very convenient that you're doing so from the cover and anonymity of a computer. Say that sh*t to my face, and we'd have a problem. Let me just say you're very lucky that you don't know me.

As for Rocky protesting Bush, I think it's fantastic. Bush is the lowest form of pond scum that I've had the misfortune to live under in my 28 years. Anderson actually has a conscience, that's why he feels it necessary to speak up. To speak up for the 100,000+ Iraqis that have been victims of Bush's murderous campaign. Woody talks about how he hates liberals and their baby-killing ways. I guess he prefers Bush who kills men, women, and children. Equal opportunity. How anybody could, in this day and age, support Bush is beyond belief. He's running this country, Iraq, and the earth into the ground and the bulk of Utahns raise their collective hand and ask "what can I do to help?" This coming from a "God-fearing" people. Oh, the hypocrisy. My head is starting to hurt. I'd better stop.


Having fun reading the lies on the loony left wing blog sites? I read Anderson's column in the Tribune on Sunday....after the third or fourth outright lie, I had to quit. Now you get to parrot the lies...you and your lying military hating, Bush bashing crowd are lower than pond scum. The hypocrisy far left is vomitous. After the second or third condescending "brave American soldiers" in Rocky's column, I wanted to vomit. I'll be at Rocky's "protest" just to support those Americans that have a semblense of respect to our country. You don't, and neither does that idiot, Rocky or you wouldn't spew out those lies about the President and by proxy, American soldiers.

BTW: Mr Worldly with your vast knowledge and experience, I have a callous on my foot older than 28 years old.


Hey Boss,

you are a typical conservative drone. Your logic is faulty and your arguments are pitiful. Face it. You backed the wrong horse. Bush is a murderer. He kills people with impunity and you support him. He pollutes the environment and you say "how can I contribute?" He gives tax breaks to the very rich to which you respond "I love you, give it to me harder."

Your criticisms are amusing to me. You call liberals "vomitous" (is that even a word?) You say we lie. We hate the military, and so on. Well, your Karl Rove-like attacks won't work on me. You see, anyone with half a brain (sorry boss) can see that Bush is a despot. Calling me names won't change that reality.

So, go on living in your fantasy world, where Bush is righteous and good, and the war in Iraq is just. If that helps you sleep at night, by all means do it. But, don't think for one second that those of us with consciences will stand idly by while atrocities are being carried out by this regime.

BTW: I was born and raised in a New York ghetto and have seen plenty in my short 28 year life. So please, don't patronize me.


I like you!! Give em hell!!

lance_sjogren wrote:

By the way:


I think the mayor is pretty incompetent too.


Bush & Rocky actually have a lot more in common than Rocky would probably like to admit.


Why do you think Mayor Anderson is incompetent?

notalawyer wrote:

BishopRick wrote:

politics4me wrote:



Martin Luther King Jr. didn't have someone come and speak for him. He had people join him that also spoke out. If Rocky wants to protest and committ political suicide, then he should protest himself, not invite someone to do it for him. But then with this act of inviting someone else to protest for him, he's already comitting political suicide.

There will be a few that will like what Rocky's done, but in the eyes of the majority, he will never be in office again.

Rocky should just bite the bullet and protest himself, and see who joins him.


I disagree with your take on Rocky. He is well-liked by the majority of Salt Lake City residents. He is voluntarily not running for another term, but many believe he would win again if he chose to run. There is a much different political energy in Salt Lake...one that has voted in a gay representative, Scott McCoy (who is doing a great job, IMHO). I have friends (many would question that, I'm sure) in politics, and they joke that the further away from the SL temple you go (staying in Utah), the more conservative and republican you are. Seems a bit ironic, doesn't it?


One correction BR . . . Scott McCoy was appointed to his present office as a Senator. It is likely that he will retain his seat this year through the will of the people.

Jackie Biskupski, however, has been voted in several times as a State Rep. It is also likely that Christine Johnson will be voted in as the third openly gay legislator this year.


That's right...forgot about that. I'm impressed he has done so well with the idiots that surround him most of the time!

Funny, I met Christine last week -- I'm buying a house in SLC and she works at the Realty office I'm using...anyway, she seems quite capable and hard working. I wish her the best.

proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:
A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?


I'm not sure how old you are, but MLK didn't protest against "the president," but against institutional racism. He protested against the lack of a voice in the government. He protested for equality in education, voting rights and equal opportunity. The president at the time was LBJ, a Texas (read Southern) Democrat. Was LBJ a racist? Maybe. Were the protests directed at him solely? No.