I'll be there Wed, I encourage everyone who disagrees with this administrations horrible policies to attend also!

PoetryNOcean wrote:

I'm not sure how old you are, but MLK didn't protest against "the president," but against institutional racism. He protested against the lack of a voice in the government. He protested for equality in education, voting rights and equal opportunity. The president at the time was LBJ, a Texas (read Southern) Democrat. Was LBJ a racist? Maybe. Were the protests directed at him solely? No.


Well, I knew he'd dance around the issue if I didn't pit one public figure against another in my comparison.

Of course MLK was opposed to the Johnson administration. He also spoke out strongly against Vietnam. Just what was the March To Washington, anyway (it was Kennedy at that time, obviously)? Why choose DC for the demonstration? Hmmm....

PoetryNOcean wrote:

proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:
A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?



I'm not sure how old you are, but MLK didn't protest against "the president," but against institutional racism. He protested against the lack of a voice in the government. He protested for equality in education, voting rights and equal opportunity. The president at the time was LBJ, a Texas (read Southern) Democrat. Was LBJ a racist? Maybe. Were the protests directed at him solely? No.

LBJ did more than any white man in our history, except Lincoln, to further the cause of civil rights. Without LBJ, the civil rights act and voting rights act would never have passed congress. When LBJ signed the civil rights act in 1964, he said to his aides, "we just gave the south to the Republicans for the next generation". He was right, and he did the right thing knowing that it would have terrible consequences for himself and his party.

Roland Kayser wrote:

PoetryNOcean wrote:

proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:
A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?



I'm not sure how old you are, but MLK didn't protest against "the president," but against institutional racism. He protested against the lack of a voice in the government. He protested for equality in education, voting rights and equal opportunity. The president at the time was LBJ, a Texas (read Southern) Democrat. Was LBJ a racist? Maybe. Were the protests directed at him solely? No.

LBJ did more than any white man in our history, except Lincoln, to further the cause of civil rights. Without LBJ, the civil rights act and voting rights act would never have passed congress. When LBJ signed the civil rights act in 1964, he said to his aides, "we just gave the south to the Republicans for the next generation". He was right, and he did the right thing knowing that it would have terrible consequences for himself and his party.


Roland,
I need to hear more good things about LBJ.

Medicine Man wrote:

Roland Kayser wrote:

PoetryNOcean wrote:

proletarian wrote:

politics4me wrote:
A Public Figure should never organize a rally against another Public Figure.


Which America do you live in?

So, according to your logic, Martin Luther King never should've marched, protested, or demonstrated against the President?

Or is this another case of Free Speech is Fine as Long as I Agree With It?



I'm not sure how old you are, but MLK didn't protest against "the president," but against institutional racism. He protested against the lack of a voice in the government. He protested for equality in education, voting rights and equal opportunity. The president at the time was LBJ, a Texas (read Southern) Democrat. Was LBJ a racist? Maybe. Were the protests directed at him solely? No.

LBJ did more than any white man in our history, except Lincoln, to further the cause of civil rights. Without LBJ, the civil rights act and voting rights act would never have passed congress. When LBJ signed the civil rights act in 1964, he said to his aides, "we just gave the south to the Republicans for the next generation". He was right, and he did the right thing knowing that it would have terrible consequences for himself and his party.


Roland,
I need to hear more good things about LBJ.

Not everything about LBJ is good. He was corrupt, dishonest, and a womanizer. He got us into Vietnam even though he thought it was an unwinnable war. He just thought the Republicans would call him soft on communism if he didn't. He vastly overreached on his war on poverty programs. But, on the biggest issues of his time, civil rights, he was a giant.

proletarian wrote:


Well, I knew he'd dance around the issue if I didn't pit one public figure against another in my comparison.

Of course MLK was opposed to the Johnson administration. He also spoke out strongly against Vietnam. Just what was the March To Washington, anyway (it was Kennedy at that time, obviously)? Why choose DC for the demonstration? Hmmm....


The reason that DC was chosen was, at that time, it was the news capitol, with New York City, for the nation. Every network (and there were only 3 at the time) had a DC news bureau. It also houses 535 "other" people who should be intimately involved with the decisions regarding the governance of this country. If Congress had not passed the 64 Civil Rights Act, the President would not have had the opportunity to sign it. If the courts hadn't passed up the line the Poll Taxes, the Brown vs Board of Education or the Tuskegee Airman cases, the Supremes wouldn't have struck down laws that were discriminatory. It's not just one person, even today, who determines policy in this country. Also, the pressure of the Press added significantly to the demeanor of the nation.