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Re: Rocky's protest embarassing Utahns in front of Bush 2 Years ago
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JayeG wrote:
Silvaeieio wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
Truth 24 7 wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
Truth 24 7 wrote:
Keep up the good work, Woody. (Wink, wink). Looks like another of your relatives has access to your computer. Unless you have figured out how to use another email address. If you are going to pose as another person, Woody, at least make their stupid posts believable.
My experience has been that those who make accusations of others are usually the ones who are guilty of the offense.
My experience has been that those who take a screen name that attempts to reflect their perceptions of their own veracity are usually the ones who are trying to shore up a weakness. Keep up the good work, Woody.
You know what Eric? I didn't like that screen name either. So, I deleted that account (Truth 24 7). Not because I don't tell the truth or appreciate the truth, but it was kind of dumb. This is my "real" screen name. I've used this for years, so it is me. So there!! Strange, but guess what? I still think the same, and feel the same, and will probably still type the same. So I guess it really doesn't matter all that much.
I do have some interesting questions though. Does your "experience" with screen names mean that Truth Typhoon is truth-challenged, and Proletarian is not a Proletariat? Maybe you just wish you lived in Miami? Hmmmmmmmmm. I just don't know what to think of all this.
Oh, and by the way . . . . I loved your post about the Karr case where you stated that you didn't fall for the media hype. How do you explain, then, that you are just a parrot of what the media pumps out about Bush, Iraq, WMDs, War on Terror, etc? You don't have an original thought in your head. I guess you are "selective" of the media hype you want to parrot. Perhaps you should consider the fact that the media hypes and reports inaccuracies all over the place, including politically. Oh my!!
And, thanks to all of you gave me the 4 Karma points. I don't even know how to do that cuz I am just a Newbie. I think if you look at the ratio of negative to positive Karma points on average, it just means that there are more liberal wackos who are sitting around waiting for someone to take care of them, while the quiet conservative types are out there taking care of business. So of course the wackos have more time to devote to their keyboard and are probably the only ones who really care about giving negative points, cuz they are negative 24-7. Oops!! There it is again.
Look below your moniker. Below Karma you will see "applaud" and "smite".
Select "applaud" to give positive karma, or "smite" for negative karma.
Personally...I think it's a load of hooey. What is most important is what you think about yourself, and your own opinion...not what others think about you or your opinions.
Welcome to the forum. I appreciate your comments.
You missed just about everything your "new" friend said. He's not new, JayeG. I'm glad you are better at analyzing Vietnam and current politics and Naziism.
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Re: Rocky's protest embarassing Utahns in front of Bush 2 Years ago
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JayeG wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
Roland Kayser wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
BX: I wouldn't call these guys, BBBoss, Woody, Dubya, WRZ, Crossroad, Silentreader, conservatives. Look at their karma points. It's clear that a majority of people, conservatives and liberals and Mormons and non-Mormons and anti-Mormons and anti-ex Mormons and Baptists and Evangelicals and Muslims and left-handers and right-handers, all disapprove of their fear-ridden arguments. In my opinion, BBBoss is a jerk because he seems to have the intelligence to come up with far more rational conclusions than he does. I may be wrong, though, about his intelligence. Once learned, it's not all that hard to cut and paste. Woody is dumber than a coal bucket and has angered more people on more topics here than even Dubya, whom nearly everyone refers to as Dumbya. WRZ has a sense of humor. I suspect he may turn into a liberal when Bush causes our laws to be repealed completely and becomes an official King. Crossroad and Silentreader try to outfoam each other like a rabid dog staring into a mirror. They will expire of dehydration one of these days or ruin their keyboards with the dripping moisture. I agree, it's kind of fun to poke fun at squirming reptilians. Mostly they are defenseless but thanks for your efforts to make them crawl back into their dark hiding places. They were just born during the wrong time. They would have made excellent Nazis for Hitler and they are bitter at having missed their calling in life.
Okay Eric, I dislike Bush as much as you do, but enough with the Hitler/Nazi comparisons. When I start seeing millions of Americans in slave labor camps, gas chambers, etc. I'll agree. Until then, it is way off base. Okay, if Bush is still running the country after Jan. 09, I might start agreeing, but I really don't see that.
I'm talking mainly about the Nazi-like mentality of the posters I listed who identify anyone who disagrees with them as comlibs or baby killers. They would have risen through the ranks in Hitler's Germany. And they would be delighted at getting the chance to be your prison guard and mine.
This from a guy who said this to Woody on post #10:
"You're a great argument for concentration camps and re-education compounds. What a sorry excuse for an American you are, Woody."
So...how is Woody any more Nazi-like than Eric? Woody is not a bit more Nazi-like than me. He is still a sorry excuse for an American. And I'm starting to wonder about you.
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Re: Rocky's protest embarassing Utahns in front of Bush 2 Years ago
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ericmiami wrote:
JayeG wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
woody wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
proletarian wrote:
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Almost laughable are he's replies.
Your syntax is laughable.
Your cowardly pretense at being a patriot is not laughable. Get out from behind that keyboard and enlist in the armed forces. You wouldn't have lasted long in my outfit in Vietnam.
Who are you talking to?
Woody. S**t for brains, Woody.
When you have run out of things to help back up your moronic view---resort to swearing....
When I run out, I will. Just thank your lucky stars you weren't in my outfit in Vietnam.
How do you know that he wasn't Eric? for that matter...how do we know that you WERE in VietNam?
If Woody WERE in your outfit in VietNam...what might have happened to him? Would he have been in peril of being 'fragged' by you or the others...perhaps?
I could care less if you know or don't know if I was in Vietnam. You must be a very nice person to come to the aid of one of your helpless bretheren.
To tell the truth Eric...I really don't give a rat's ass whether you served in Nam or not. You were the one who threw it out there.
I like to think I'm a pretty nice person, and I find that nice is as nice does. You might try being a little nicer yourself.
This is an open forum Eric. We are not restricted from interjecting comments into ongoing discussions between other posters.
I posted a few questions that I felt were valid to the exchange of boasts, accusations, and what looked to be a few thinly veiled threats.
So...why should Woody thank his lucky stars that he didn't serve in your outfit? Would he have possibly been in some peril at the hands of you and your outfit?
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cameraman wrote:
Rocky is both an idiot and a traitor. Now my friend from the anti-war crowd - what is your solution to the war on Terror?
Rocky is shrewd and a true patriot. Some good solutions to the war on terror would include:
1) Listening to the majority of Americans when they tell you in the first place that invading Iraq would be a mistake. There were many anti-war demonstrations involving thousands of people across America before Bush invaded Iraq. There was tremendous press coverage of this, editorials, political cartoons, LTEs, radio and T.V. discussions, etc. Bush brushed all this aside as the opinions of a "focus group." News flash--the president is an elected official and he is, by definition, supposed to represent us, not brush this many concerned citizens off as a "focus group."
2) Confine the conflict to the real combatants. Bush knew before he invaded Iraq that Saddam wasn't involved in 911. Lying to the American people about this and attacking Iraq in spite of this are both critically stupid and immoral moves.
3) GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM AND STOP HACKING AT THE BRANCHES. America's no-strings-attached support of Israeli is the root of the contention. We could continue to support Israel financially, yet demand that they meet certain conditions to earn this support. It would be entirely reasonable to demand that they respect the civil rights of non-Jews living in Israel, and that they stop grabbing Palestinian land.
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Re: Rocky's protest embarassing Utahns in front of Bush 2 Years ago
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KitKat wrote:
JayeG wrote:
KitKat wrote:
gopherus wrote:
Unfortunately some of the men in the military are murderers and rapists. They are a very, very small minority. Most are average folks trying to do a job and protecting the United States because they believe in what it stands for. I don't put the President in the same league as these folks. To argue that he is a murderer is to question the definition of the word and when a persons actions make them responsible for the death of another person. I think there are good arguments for both perspectives, but I think we can agree that he has been largely responsible (as a leader of a nation that entered into war) for the deaths of both those who deserved nothing better and those who were entirely innocent (and many in-between). I do think that it would be fare to label Bush a torturer even though he has not to my knowledge directly participated in any such actions. He is directly responsible for the policies of his administration that include attempts to exempt us from Geneva conventions, shipping suspects to nations that condone torture, and setting policy and tone that allowed torture in Guantanamo and Iraq. Beware being to active in your defense, it suggests that you don't want to address the real issues at hand and can't support the view that he is not a murderer. You can do better. By the way did you ever find any support for suggesting Sheehan is anti-Semitic?
I have to agree, much as I wish I didn't. My brother served two months in VietNam before he was permanently (100%) disabled. In his short time there, he saw things that have scarred him for life. I'll relate one thing and you can belive me or not, makes no difference to me. One night, not long after he arrived, the guys in his barracks were in bed sleeping. My brother could not sleep due to the jungle noises, and such being that he was new. He was just laying there, when the door creaked open and a couple of men came in very quietly. They crept over to the one black soldier in the barracks and slit his throat. It took all my brother had to keep from screaming. I have no idea how this was reported to the soldier's family. But I know it happened because my brother said so and I know my brother. He came back a completely different person than when he left. To this day, he has not gotten over the things he saw. He can't watch any kind of war movie, not even John Wayne, without having flashbacks. War is nasty!
The men who slit the black soldiers throat...who were they? Did your brother get a clear look at them, or was it too dark to see their features, or how they were dressed?
Were they white men, black men, or Asian men? Was the black soldier possibly involved in something he shouldn't have been? How new was he, and how well did he know the black soldier?
Alot of 'fragging' went on in the Nam. I'm not condoning it at all...it was reprehensible...but if you witnessed any such activities and you talked...you were next in line to die.
There are several possibilities... it could be that this individual either saw or heard something he shouldn't have seen or heard, and he threatened to spill the beans...or he may have done something stupid enough in the field to endanger the others, and they decided it was either him or them...he wouldn't get another chance to screw up and get them all killed along with him.
I don't know.
My brother also suffered greatly from what he witnessed during that war. He never recovered, he spent time in and out of the V.A., they had him on pretty heavy drugs, and he finally grew sick of it and committed suicide.
You see...he was a very gentle soul...an artist, and a veritable genius. It was more than this gentle soul could live with. So he opted out.
I'm glad that your brother hasn't also opted out. Our prayers are with him.
I can't answer those questions, Jaye. I only know that it was dark. My brother said when the killers left, he was shaking so bad and had to force himself not to throw up. He used to talk about "wrapping his car around a tree", but no longer does. He is addicted to Morphine, which he takes for his pain. He's not in real good conditon, but he will be ok. In the last few years since dad passed on, he and I have become closer, and I think that is helping him. I hope so.
It's a pretty tough situation KitKat. Some guys deal pretty well with the memories of what they experienced in the Nam, some don't deal with it as well, and some made the decision to end it all.
What your brother witnessed was horrible. Most decent and civilized guys would have reacted in the same way that your brother did.
To be forced to take human lives during war is a hard thing to deal with. To watch a human being die is a hard thing. But to witness a human being being murdered is much harder for any decent human being to deal with.
It is possible, as I said, that the men who murdered this soldier were either enemies, or someone that the soldier was involved with...in something he never should have been involved with.
I have a buddy who experienced something similar to what happened in the movie "Fire Base Gloria".
In the movie, the fire base was surrounded by the enemy. It was late at night. The outnumbered Americans were supposed to stay alert and watch out for the enemy.
A few guys let down their guard and fell asleep. The enemy snuck in, killed them, beheaded them and stuck their heads on pikes, and stole their weapons.
What my friend experienced was a little different. His platoon was out humping the boonies. It was late at night, and they had set the watch, and most of the guys were trying to get some sleep.
In the morning, when he woke up, the guards were dead, and every other guy had his throat slit, and his ears cut off.
My buddy just happened to be one of the lucky few to be left alive. This was a terror tactic, and it was very effective.
Your brother is lucky to have a sister like you. Be patient with him...it's difficult to imagine the horrors he experienced...even if he has related them to you.
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ericmiami wrote:
JayeG wrote:
Silvaeieio wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
Truth 24 7 wrote:
ericmiami wrote:
Truth 24 7 wrote:
Keep up the good work, Woody. (Wink, wink). Looks like another of your relatives has access to your computer. Unless you have figured out how to use another email address. If you are going to pose as another person, Woody, at least make their stupid posts believable.
My experience has been that those who make accusations of others are usually the ones who are guilty of the offense.
My experience has been that those who take a screen name that attempts to reflect their perceptions of their own veracity are usually the ones who are trying to shore up a weakness. Keep up the good work, Woody.
You know what Eric? I didn't like that screen name either. So, I deleted that account (Truth 24 7). Not because I don't tell the truth or appreciate the truth, but it was kind of dumb. This is my "real" screen name. I've used this for years, so it is me. So there!! Strange, but guess what? I still think the same, and feel the same, and will probably still type the same. So I guess it really doesn't matter all that much.
I do have some interesting questions though. Does your "experience" with screen names mean that Truth Typhoon is truth-challenged, and Proletarian is not a Proletariat? Maybe you just wish you lived in Miami? Hmmmmmmmmm. I just don't know what to think of all this.
Oh, and by the way . . . . I loved your post about the Karr case where you stated that you didn't fall for the media hype. How do you explain, then, that you are just a parrot of what the media pumps out about Bush, Iraq, WMDs, War on Terror, etc? You don't have an original thought in your head. I guess you are "selective" of the media hype you want to parrot. Perhaps you should consider the fact that the media hypes and reports inaccuracies all over the place, including politically. Oh my!!
And, thanks to all of you gave me the 4 Karma points. I don't even know how to do that cuz I am just a Newbie. I think if you look at the ratio of negative to positive Karma points on average, it just means that there are more liberal wackos who are sitting around waiting for someone to take care of them, while the quiet conservative types are out there taking care of business. So of course the wackos have more time to devote to their keyboard and are probably the only ones who really care about giving negative points, cuz they are negative 24-7. Oops!! There it is again.
Look below your moniker. Below Karma you will see "applaud" and "smite".
Select "applaud" to give positive karma, or "smite" for negative karma.
Personally...I think it's a load of hooey. What is most important is what you think about yourself, and your own opinion...not what others think about you or your opinions.
Welcome to the forum. I appreciate your comments.
You missed just about everything your "new" friend said. He's not new, JayeG. I'm glad you are better at analyzing Vietnam and current politics and Naziism.
As far as I can see, the guy hadn't been posting long under his other moniker. He changed it when you and your cronies started making fun of it.
He claims to be a newbie to this forum. He claims that this is his real screen name. It could be that he has participated under that moniker on other forums, and that he IS a newbie to this forum.
Now...I don't know if he's telling the gospel truth about his identity, or if he's telling outright lies.
Just as I don't know if you tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as far as your own identity, or life experiences go.
Your name may not be Eric and you may not live in Miami.I don't know and I don't really give a flying fart.
There's just no way of knowing one way or the other, so maybe we all ought to concentrate our efforts on stating our own opinions and leave off with the name calling and the childish insults.
If Silvaeieio states that he's a newbie, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and welcome him to the forum.
Perhaps it's just because I'm such a nice guy. ;D
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