BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?

Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?

Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?

Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?

Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?

There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".

I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.

OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.

let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.

And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.

Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.

Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?


BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.

You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.

Look Logan if that's what you want to believe, OK. It just seems that you've made Heaven this exclusive little club. From the billions and billions of people that have lived upon this earth and will live here in the future, you're talking about a very select few that will be able to hear and accept your concept in order to gain exaltation. SORRY, that's not my concept of a kind and loving Heavenly Father. It just doesn't make sense that He would only want a select few to be able to share His PLAN. Look at the percentages here Logan. We are talking about a fraction of a percent of the entire population of mankind that has every lived or will ever live on this earth. He sent His SON to die for THAT?

Logan, I'm not mocking your belief. You have every right to believe that. I don't, OK. I happen to think a loving Father wants a majority of His children to be happy and to enjoy all He has to offer. And that He will provide a way for that to happen in more ways than one. When you really get to bottom of what we are talking about, this is it. With one other big difference. I want to continue with my family. I want to continue with my wife. You don't, OK? You're satified with "salvation", I guess I'm selfish, I want more. I want to be with my family.

Logan, I should add. What's most important is what makes you feel the closest to your God. Not what someone else says that should be. If you're happy with your Faith and it works in your life that's really what matters.

The LDS Faith works best for me. For others not. at all.

BLogan wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
BLogan wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
BLogan wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
More proof

http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/Mormons.html

"The Mormons deny the Trinity and the existence of a literal burning Hell, yet they promote polytheism (many gods), baptism for the dead, and the notion that Jesus and Satan were originally spirit brothers! Friend, make no mistake about it--Mormonism is a dangerous cult. In the eyes of man, the Mormons seem very respectable, but the light of God's word reveals the true wolves..."

http://www.afcministry.com/Are_Mormons_Christians.htm


Why Mormons are not Christians



This took me all of two minutes, could find more, but we now have four examples, I'd say that will suffice.

dubbie, this looks like this information came from a web site, didn't you claim this bashing came from pastors preaching this hatred from the pulpit? Was/Is this persona Christian minister?


Give us your churches website, let's see what they have to say about Mormons Blogan, I'd venture to guess your preacher has many a day bashing other cults. As has been my experience with bible thumping nutjob preachers.


The information given was Christian churches, don't make excuses, it's what you asked for, and got it.

Gee dubbie, I knew it wouldn't be long before I caught you lying also. your comment is and has been from the start that Christian preachers are preaching this Mormon bashing from the pulpit, now either produce your evidence or just admit that your hearing these nasty lies during priesthood session or Mormonism's general conference.

Go to any Mainstream Christian church, you'll see, post your churches website, we'll see what there saying. I think you know what I speak is true.

dubbie,I've visited many Christian denominations here along the Wasatch front and I promise you that they don't spend their time bashing Mormonism as you and your leadership dishonestly claim. Now it wasn't many years ago that Mormon temples were hatefully portraying Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.

dubbie, sadly your just like the founding leaders of the Mormon Church, all you have is personal opinion and that is wrong.
But I still love ya!

P.S. you failed to answer my question about your seven year old daughter, do you teach her this hatred for non-Mormons? Is she allowed to play with other children who are non mormon?

Your probably a typical Utah boy that has never seen the world. Trust me when I say, I have been to many areas of the world, the bible belt on my mission, where I grew up, and trust me, outside of utah, Mainstream Christians dislike Mormons, and bash them. Get outta Utah and see what I mean.

BLogan wrote:
[bP.S. you failed to answer my question about your seven year old daughter, do you teach her this hatred for non-Mormons? Is she allowed to play with other children who are non mormon?

And you have failed to answer many many questions we have asked you.

As far as my kids, they are taught to love all people, no matter race, creed or religion. As do I.... in real life.

Dubbs wrote:
Sorry, just had it with the idiot, he's been disrepectful from day one here, you don't know the half of it.

And I suppose you consider yourself to be respectful to others and their beliefs or leadership?

Dubbs wrote:
BLogan wrote:
[bP.S. you failed to answer my question about your seven year old daughter, do you teach her this hatred for non-Mormons? Is she allowed to play with other children who are non mormon?

And you have failed to answer many many questions we have asked you.

As far as my kids, they are taught to love all people, no matter race, creed or religion. As do I.... in real life.
What is it going to take for you to understand that this forum IS part of your real life?

KitKat wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
BLogan wrote:
dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?

Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?

Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?

Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?

Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?

There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".

I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.

OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.

let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.

And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.

Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.

Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?


BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.

You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Once again, what happens to those who never heard of Jesus Christ in this life? The cave men, for example.

You won't answer, will you? Because you can't!!

I already did a couple days ago and that is what I believe and that is where my faith stands.