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BLogan (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Again, why then did the Corinthians baptise for the dead, and why did Christ in 1 Peter go preach to those that were dead?It never was doctrine of Christianity the Corinthians were chastised for this, read your Bible without the LDS footnotes. why do some Mormons still occasionally get riled up and start talking about a heavenly mother?
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Dubbs (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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KitKat wrote: Dubbs wrote: BLogan wrote: [bP.S. you failed to answer my question about your seven year old daughter, do you teach her this hatred for non-Mormons? Is she allowed to play with other children who are non mormon?
And you have failed to answer many many questions we have asked you.
As far as my kids, they are taught to love all people, no matter race, creed or religion. As do I.... in real life. What is it going to take for you to understand that this forum IS part of your real life?
And how long is it going to take you to realize you don't really know anyone here.
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Dubbs (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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BLogan wrote:Dubbs wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Again, why then did the Corinthians baptise for the dead, and why did Christ in 1 Peter go preach to those that were dead?
It never was doctrine of Christianity the Corinthians were chastised for this, read your Bible without the LDS footnotes.
why do some Mormons still occasionally get riled up and start talking about a heavenly mother?Why did Christ go preach to those in prison if it's too late? It's a sacred topic, not one we discuss. If you have a Mom, you know why. Ever hear people cursing God? "God dammit" ect? I think you can see why.
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JLD (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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ThomasK wrote:BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Look Logan if that's what you want to believe, OK. It just seems that you've made Heaven this exclusive little club. From the billions and billions of people that have lived upon this earth and will live here in the future, you're talking about a very select few that will be able to here and accept your concept in order to gain exaltation. SORRY, that's not my concept of a kind and loving Heavenly Father. It just doesn't make sense that He would only want a select few to be able to share His PLAN. Look at the percentages here Logan. We are talking about a fraction of a percent of the entire population of mankind that has every lived or will ever live on this earth. He sent His SON to die for THAT?
Logan, I'm not mocking your belief. You have every right to believe that. I don't, OK. I happen to think a loving Father wants a majority of His children to be happy and to enjoy all He has to offer. And that He will provide a way for that to happen in more ways than one. When you really get to bottom of what we are talking about, this is it. With one other big difference. I want to continue with my family. I want to continue with my wife. You don't. OK, you're satified with "salvation", I guess I'm selfish, I want more. I want to be with my family.
Logan, I should add. What's most important is what makes you feel the closest to your God. Not what someone else says that should be. If you're happy with your Faith and it works in your life that's really what matters.
The LDS Faith works best for me. For others not. at all.Nice answer. I have some questions and am interested in your opinions. Or you can PM them if this isn't the place to air that kind of stuff. Why does it take a sealing ceremony to bind a family together? What is preventing them from being together otherwise? You'd think that if it was important to be together you would seek that out in the afterlife without requiring a ceremony to instill that desire into you for the afterlife.
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JLD (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:BLogan wrote: Dubbs wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late.
Again, why then did the Corinthians baptise for the dead, and why did Christ in 1 Peter go preach to those that were dead?
It never was doctrine of Christianity the Corinthians were chastised for this, read your Bible without the LDS footnotes.
why do some Mormons still occasionally get riled up and start talking about a heavenly mother?
Why did Christ go preach to those in prison if it's too late?
It's a sacred topic, not one we discuss. If you have a Mom, you know why. Ever hear people cursing God? "God dammit" ect? I think you can see why.I agree. I believe that if there is a Heavenly Father then there is a Heavenly Mother as well. But that doesn't mean I want people to trash talk her.
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KitKat (User)
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Re:VATICAN KEEPS PARISH RECORDS FROM MORMONS 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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BLogan wrote:KitKat wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: ThomasK wrote: BLogan wrote: dubbs, in regard to your always claiming that Christian pastors bash Mormons, are you claiming that this goes on during Sunday services?
Where do you get this idea? Have you ever attended any other Christian denominations services where this went on while you were there?
Or are you just guilty of strictly parroting some hateful rumor that you possibly heard during Sunday services or possibly General conference of the LDS church?
Can you provide any evidence of Christian ministers preaching these hateful statements against Mormons from the pulpit?
Now I can produce evidence of Mormon prophets and general authorities bashing Christians from the pulpit,should we look at this evidence?
There is plenty of this "bashing" to go around. There was a post on here just a couple of days ago from an evangelical site that talked about the LDS beliefs as ludicrous etc. So yes, there's plenty to go around. But I do admit, evangelicals are equal opportunity bashers. They dislike everyone. But whats the point? You and dubbs are quite alike in that respect. I don't find much useful in either one of your "discussions".
I would welcome discussing beliefs but it always seems to go downhill here. Your idea of salvation is different than mine, so what. The only way we're going to find out who is right is to kick the bucket. You're welcome to go first and report back.
OK ThomasK, you're obviously forgetting that it is the Mormon Church and its membership who consider all other religions apostate, it is also your religion who considers all others as lacking any authority from God whatsoever.
let's not forget Mormonism's pre-1990 temple ceremony where they portray all Christian ministers as the hirelings of Satan.
And as to your not finding anything useful in my discussions, that's OK because I take my information straight from Mormonism's leaders and you don't like that my little friend.
Our views on salvation ("eternal life with God" definitely differ and sadly for those who have been deceived it's too late once you die.
Look if you don't believe in the LDS Faith, than it doesn't matter if you are an "apostate or lack authority", anymore than your views that I'm "sadly deceived and it's too late once I die", matters to me. Get it little friend?
BTW, is your "too late" law permanent? So much for the Atonement.
You either accept or reject Jesus Christ in this life and yes once you die it is too late. Once again, what happens to those who never heard of Jesus Christ in this life? The cave men, for example.
You won't answer, will you? Because you can't!!
I already did a couple days ago and that is what I believe and that is where my faith stands.No, I don't think you did. Because I've been watching for an answer...
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