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This just in: The Vatican has requested Mormon records to baptize the Mormon ancestors of current Catholic parishioners.

This just in: Baptists have requested the records of deceased Catholics and Mormons to baptize them to their congregation for those who are currently Protestant.

This just in: If they wanted to be a CATHOLIC/MORMON/BAPTIST wouldn't they have picked that when they were alive? Sure grab anyone who can't argue back. Whats next, claim all people who have ever breathed while alive?

Give me a break! If someone baptized me to their personal religious choice after I was dead and couldn't fight back I would haunt their egocentric self.
 
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This just in: The Vatican has requested Mormon records to baptize the Mormon ancestors of current Catholic parishioners.

This just in: Baptists have requested the records of deceased Catholics and Mormons to baptize them to their congregation for those who are currently Protestant.

This just in: If they wanted to be a CATHOLIC/MORMON/BAPTIST wouldn't they have picked that when they were alive? Sure grab anyone who can't argue back. Whats next, claim all people who have ever breathed while alive?

Give me a break! If someone baptized me to their personal religious choice after I was dead and couldn't fight back I would haunt their egocentric self.

But you CAN fight back. You, the spirit of the dead person, just has to say "no thanks."

By the way, the Catholics said some prayers and burned some candles to do something for my mother in the afterlife after she died. Was I offended? Is she a Catholic, now? I was honored that my friends would do something for her and I know that it made them feel better. Mom still has her agency to decide what religion she wants to be and as far as I know, she isn't counted as part of the earthly Catholic church. Before becoming unglued about the LDS doctrine of baptism for the dead, it would be wise to learn what it is and what the LDS actually believe about it.
 
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Nope. The bottom line is the deceased has no say ergo let them stand as they lived, proudly and correctly in history as in life. IF any living person wishes a ceremony for their loved one at the time they pass that is fine. If it is in conflict with a deceased person's religious choice in life, not fine.

I mean this isn't brain science. It doesn't matter what ANY religion believes, you can't kidnap dead people for your own expediency. No matter the religion.
 
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Why does it even matter? If you believe in the LDS religion you want them baptized, and if you don't believe, then it doesn't mean anything, just a pointless ceremony that changes nothing.
 
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Marylb wrote:
Nope. The bottom line is the deceased has no say ergo let them stand as they lived, proudly and correctly in history as in life. IF any living person wishes a ceremony for their loved one at the time they pass that is fine. If it is in conflict with a deceased person's religious choice in life, not fine.

I mean this isn't brain science. It doesn't matter what ANY religion believes, you can't kidnap dead people for your own expediency. No matter the religion.

You're right, Marylb. It isn't brain science. Just because I do something in behalf of someone who has died, doesn't mean it is so. "Marylb, I hereby initiate you into the order of the Holy Pittakos to be forever more a Pittakan. I further declare this sacred ordinance to be irreversible in this life and the life hereafter." This is now in print for all to see and is therefor valid. Is it? Have I just changed your history? Have I made a choice for you that you have no choice in?
 
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JLD wrote:
Why does it even matter? If you believe in the LDS religion you want them baptized, and if you don't believe, then it doesn't mean anything, just a pointless ceremony that changes nothing.

Because JLD it is an act of expediency. But in this case it is the highest disrespect for the deceased one can do. All living beings select their religion choice in life and to change that is to change who they were. Indeed the very fact that anyone thinks the deceased was unbaptized shows they know what that person wished in life. That is part of what I think is wrong in our society, we think we can make it all turn out our way to the point of even messing with the dead. No respect whatsoever. How many relatives does that deceased person have? Assuming they are from all walks of life the rest should be screaming bloody murder over messing with their heritage. Stand away from any religion and look at it. What if Catholics start rebaptized all these dead people you are kidnapping and they add in actual Mormons, because someone of a distant blood may or may not be related. Wouldn't like it would you?
 
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