Pittakos wrote:
Marylb wrote:
Nope. The bottom line is the deceased has no say ergo let them stand as they lived, proudly and correctly in history as in life. IF any living person wishes a ceremony for their loved one at the time they pass that is fine. If it is in conflict with a deceased person's religious choice in life, not fine.

I mean this isn't brain science. It doesn't matter what ANY religion believes, you can't kidnap dead people for your own expediency. No matter the religion.
You're right, Marylb. It isn't brain science. Just because I do something in behalf of someone who has died, doesn't mean it is so. "Marylb, I hereby initiate you into the order of the Holy Pittakos to be forever more a Pittakan. I further declare this sacred ordinance to be irreversible in this life and the life hereafter." This is now in print for all to see and is therefor valid. Is it? Have I just changed your history? Have I made a choice for you that you have no choice in?

A Holy Pittakan? I want in.(I'm not going to have to wear the girdle again, am I?)

leftintheuc wrote:
Pittakos wrote:
Marylb wrote:
Nope. The bottom line is the deceased has no say ergo let them stand as they lived, proudly and correctly in history as in life. IF any living person wishes a ceremony for their loved one at the time they pass that is fine. If it is in conflict with a deceased person's religious choice in life, not fine.

I mean this isn't brain science. It doesn't matter what ANY religion believes, you can't kidnap dead people for your own expediency. No matter the religion.
You're right, Marylb. It isn't brain science. Just because I do something in behalf of someone who has died, doesn't mean it is so. "Marylb, I hereby initiate you into the order of the Holy Pittakos to be forever more a Pittakan. I further declare this sacred ordinance to be irreversible in this life and the life hereafter." This is now in print for all to see and is therefor valid. Is it? Have I just changed your history? Have I made a choice for you that you have no choice in?

A Holy Pittakan? I want in.(I'm not going to have to wear the girdle again, am I?)
No. We go naked 24/7

The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.

Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.


Your problem is you don't respect the religious beliefs of others.

I would find no problem if the Satans church of the devil baptized any of my relatives, for I know they are of no affect on me or my family.

Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.
Marylb, I give you permission to have the Catholic Church baptize Joseph Smith. Remember, however, to make it fair by allowing Joseph to either accept or reject the baptism on the other side. Well, on second thought, scratch the second sentence. Just go ahead and have him baptized, if you want. You can even have him put on the roles of the Catholic Church if you want. I'm am pretty sure that 99% of Mormons won't be offended but will just shrug it off or even be grateful that someone felt so strongly about his salvation that they would go through the trouble to baptize him into their church. Permission granted.

Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.


The thing is Marylb, doing work for the dead is the most precious gift a mormon can give to another. The choice of accepting the gift is always theirs. There is no disrespect meant, and since it changes nothing if they are not interested, there is no disrespect given. Most of my relatives never had a chance to investigate the church and it is important to me they have the work done incase they want to hear more.