Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.

My dear lady...if you wish to baptize Joseph Smith into the Catholic faith...go right on ahead. I...as a member of the LDS faith in good standing...hereby allow you to have at it.

Pittakos wrote:
Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.
Marylb, I give you permission to have the Catholic Church baptize Joseph Smith. Remember, however, to make it fair by allowing Joseph to either accept or reject the baptism on the other side. Well, on second thought, scratch the second sentence. Just go ahead and have him baptized, if you want. You can even have him put on the roles of the Catholic Church if you want. I'm am pretty sure that 99% of Mormons won't be offended but will just shrug it off or even be grateful that someone felt so strongly about his salvation that they would go through the trouble to baptize him into their church. Permission granted.

Whoops you beat me to the punch AGAIN Pittakos. In that case...I second the notion and provide witness to the fact.

Marylb wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.


Your problem is you don't respect the religious beliefs of others.

I would find no problem if the Satans church of the devil baptized any of my relatives, for I know they are of no affect on me or my family.

Yes I do. I respect all religions as long as they respect humanity's right to live and die with respect untarnished by the whim of the expedient generations. That alone does not mean that this overtly disrespectful act to place the last signature of their life by strangers is beyond the pale. I don't really care if you don't care, I care and millions more care and they care because they are not Mormon or not Catholic or not whatever life thief there is.

?...'Life thief'?

KitKat wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.


Your problem is you don't respect the religious beliefs of others.

I would find no problem if the Satans church of the devil baptized any of my relatives, for I know they are of no affect on me or my family.

I know you don't respect any others' religious beliefs. You have bashed time and time again on the forum.

So get off it. Now.

no more disrespect than you give the LDS faith.

No get off it son.
No one is more disrespectful than you!

A-FLIPPETY-MEN!!!

Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
Marylb wrote:
The only thing that I find interesting is that there is no Mormon who would allow me to, say, baptize Joseph Smith as a Catholic would you? Absolutely unbelievable to not only do it but stick up for it as if you see no wrong in messing with the deceased and justifying it with some distant minor blood line diluted into inconsequential lineage making it ok. There is nothing right about this whatsoever.


Your problem is you don't respect the religious beliefs of others.

I would find no problem if the Satans church of the devil baptized any of my relatives, for I know they are of no affect on me or my family.

I know you don't respect any others' religious beliefs. You have bashed time and time again on the forum.

So get off it. Now.

no more disrespect than you give the LDS faith.

No get off it son.

I have always been respectful in telling the truth about it. I think it is a fine church. It simply is not the true church.

And neither is your beliefs, neither is yours.

Wren's beliefs are true for Wren...just as your beliefs are true for you.

Neither trumps the other. Neither applies to the other.

Wren has been respectful to the LDS Church in that he believes that it is a fine faith, which has overcome a doubtful past and matured into an organization which has accomplished much good throughout the world.

He simply does not believe that it is 'THE ONE TRUE CHURCH ON EARTH!!!!!(echo...echo...echo)

You...on the other hand...have constantly, and consistently mocked, derided and degraded his beliefs, my beliefs, and pretty much everyone else's beliefs who are not members of the LDS faith that participate on this forum...not to mention my wife...who does NOT participate on this forum.

You are the epitome of disrespect and discourtesy.

I think what is clear is we are not communicating so I'll try something different by way of communication. To a person who is Mormon doing this may seem perfectly fine but for the outside world it is not fine. The reason it is not fine is most people select their affiliation in life. A Catholic, Jew, Agnostic, Protestant or Muslim believes just as strongly as you do in their faith or lack of faith. It is a very important final record of who they are and who they were in life. There will never be a time when anyone will be pleased with any group rewriting their wishes. It just is. I do understand that if you are taught that it is ok you may not understand the horror of making my Catholic mom into a Mormon as it goes against who she was. So what you take lightly is extremely offensive to those who are not of the same faith. I respect that you follow your faith but dig in if anyone no matter the faith plays with my history and steals my true life when I am gone. You may not understand that but it may explain why so many get upset when there is even a hint that someone would dare to baptize someone who would never allow that in life. Hope that makes sense to you because in reality a nonchalant view of this is mind boggling. I can tell you that my mom and every relative with her and those who remain on this planet would come undone. She was quite a woman and she did not accidentally pick her religion anymore than Mormon's do. Hopefully you will understand how upsetting this is to non-Mormons.