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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 11  
iceman wrote:
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We have our own religious beliefs and probably quite different. I do not believe in the various celestial kingdoms, terestial, or whatever, nor the degrees. I do not believe women need to be sealed to a man to gain entry into heaven, or kingdom, and I certainly don't believe men become gods. There is only one in my religion, any more than that is blasphemy.
I was baptised but was not confirmed into the Church until old enough to understand what it meant theologically. But, that's what I accepted at the time. Time does change ideology however.

Some people have an opinion on afterlife, whether it be the good works they have done or have been a loyal member of a church. With that is their belief acceptance to God's presence in heaven, or hell for that matter. They die with their belief system intact...or so they thought. Which is why the LDS should review their practice on interferrence with other religions.
Suppose an LDS apostle, or any member for that matter, dies, and a wiccan or satanist decides that would practice a black art over the grave of the dead LDS member to bring their soul to the grasp of satan or whatever they believe in. Purhaps place an innocuous Baphamet or Pentagram on the LDS member's grave...after all they were just trying to be "good hearted" by sharing their religion. Just how would you feel? This is not to say LDS is evil or satanic, this is an analogy on a perspective.


Just an interjected thought...Wiccans, as a majority don't delve into the black arts. They don't believe in a specific heaven, nor do they believe in a hell, or a Satan...let alone worship him or seek to send souls to him.

Their chiefest belief is that they do not harm, or otherwise interfere with the free will of others. They do not delve in demons...and the pentacle, or pentagram within a circle, is the most recognizable symbol of Wicca. The pentacle represents the integration of body and spirit, and the spiritual mastery of the four elements...Fire, Air, Earth, and Water.
 
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: -4  
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iceman wrote:
Pitt...
We have our own religious beliefs and probably quite different. I do not believe in the various celestial kingdoms, terestial, or whatever, nor the degrees. I do not believe women need to be sealed to a man to gain entry into heaven, or kingdom, and I certainly don't believe men become gods. There is only one in my religion, any more than that is blasphemy.
I was baptised but was not confirmed into the Church until old enough to understand what it meant theologically. But, that's what I accepted at the time. Time does change ideology however.

Some people have an opinion on afterlife, whether it be the good works they have done or have been a loyal member of a church. With that is their belief acceptance to God's presence in heaven, or hell for that matter. They die with their belief system intact...or so they thought. Which is why the LDS should review their practice on interferrence with other religions.
Suppose an LDS apostle, or any member for that matter, dies, and a wiccan or satanist decides that would practice a black art over the grave of the dead LDS member to bring their soul to the grasp of satan or whatever they believe in. Purhaps place an innocuous Baphamet or Pentagram on the LDS member's grave...after all they were just trying to be "good hearted" by sharing their religion. Just how would you feel? This is not to say LDS is evil or satanic, this is an analogy on a perspective.


So who goes to hell? How does one get to heaven in your beliefs?


I don't know...in the scheme of things, I am too insignificant to know God's criteria and not pompous enough to believe I set the rules. When judgment day comes around, I'm sure God will have a pretty good idea who is worthy.
 
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Suppose Scientology was performing one of their technologies on the name of your deceased mother so she could meet L Ron Hubbard.

Suppose the Scientologists had told your cousin (who had given them your mother's name) that she was probably just overjoyed at the day of her Scientology tech being applied...she can now progress into the higher realms.

... ?

How about if the technology was being applied to the name of your sister who was not too long ago killed as a result of a car accident?
 
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Jaye wrote:
iceman wrote:
Pitt...
We have our own religious beliefs and probably quite different. I do not believe in the various celestial kingdoms, terestial, or whatever, nor the degrees. I do not believe women need to be sealed to a man to gain entry into heaven, or kingdom, and I certainly don't believe men become gods. There is only one in my religion, any more than that is blasphemy.
I was baptised but was not confirmed into the Church until old enough to understand what it meant theologically. But, that's what I accepted at the time. Time does change ideology however.

Some people have an opinion on afterlife, whether it be the good works they have done or have been a loyal member of a church. With that is their belief acceptance to God's presence in heaven, or hell for that matter. They die with their belief system intact...or so they thought. Which is why the LDS should review their practice on interferrence with other religions.
Suppose an LDS apostle, or any member for that matter, dies, and a wiccan or satanist decides that would practice a black art over the grave of the dead LDS member to bring their soul to the grasp of satan or whatever they believe in. Purhaps place an innocuous Baphamet or Pentagram on the LDS member's grave...after all they were just trying to be "good hearted" by sharing their religion. Just how would you feel? This is not to say LDS is evil or satanic, this is an analogy on a perspective.


Just an interjected thought...Wiccans, as a majority don't delve into the black arts. They don't believe in a specific heaven, nor do they believe in a hell, or a Satan...let alone worship him or seek to send souls to him.

Their chiefest belief is that they do not harm, or otherwise interfere with the free will of others. They do not delve in demons...and the pentacle, or pentagram within a circle, is the most recognizable symbol of Wicca. The pentacle represents the integration of body and spirit, and the spiritual mastery of the four elements...Fire, Air, Earth, and Water.

MGF...my comment was not to disparage anyone religion, but to use a weak analogy to my perspective.
 
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WaynesWorld wrote:
Suppose Scientology was performing one of their technologies on the name of your deceased mother so she could meet L Ron Hubbard.

Suppose the Scientologists had told your cousin (who had given them your mother's name) that she was probably just overjoyed at the day of her Scientology tech being applied...she can now progress into the higher realms.

... ?

How about if the technology was being applied to the name of your sister who was not too long ago killed as a result of a car accident?


Wouldn't care, I have my beliefs, they have theirs, there's affect mine in now way, shape or form.
 
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 11  
iceman wrote:
Jaye wrote:
iceman wrote:
Pitt...
We have our own religious beliefs and probably quite different. I do not believe in the various celestial kingdoms, terestial, or whatever, nor the degrees. I do not believe women need to be sealed to a man to gain entry into heaven, or kingdom, and I certainly don't believe men become gods. There is only one in my religion, any more than that is blasphemy.
I was baptised but was not confirmed into the Church until old enough to understand what it meant theologically. But, that's what I accepted at the time. Time does change ideology however.

Some people have an opinion on afterlife, whether it be the good works they have done or have been a loyal member of a church. With that is their belief acceptance to God's presence in heaven, or hell for that matter. They die with their belief system intact...or so they thought. Which is why the LDS should review their practice on interferrence with other religions.
Suppose an LDS apostle, or any member for that matter, dies, and a wiccan or satanist decides that would practice a black art over the grave of the dead LDS member to bring their soul to the grasp of satan or whatever they believe in. Purhaps place an innocuous Baphamet or Pentagram on the LDS member's grave...after all they were just trying to be "good hearted" by sharing their religion. Just how would you feel? This is not to say LDS is evil or satanic, this is an analogy on a perspective.


Just an interjected thought...Wiccans, as a majority don't delve into the black arts. They don't believe in a specific heaven, nor do they believe in a hell, or a Satan...let alone worship him or seek to send souls to him.

Their chiefest belief is that they do not harm, or otherwise interfere with the free will of others. They do not delve in demons...and the pentacle, or pentagram within a circle, is the most recognizable symbol of Wicca. The pentacle represents the integration of body and spirit, and the spiritual mastery of the four elements...Fire, Air, Earth, and Water.

MGF...my comment was not to disparage anyone religion, but to use a weak analogy to my perspective.


I know Ice...... just pointing out a couple of facts for those who might not be aware of what the Wiccans believe.
 
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