Wren (User)
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Both sides of this discussion have some very valid points. I can understand the LDS desire to give something they believe to be invaluable spiritually. I can also perceive the non-LDS attitude that the baptism for the dead is an effrontery against their religious beliefs and culture.
This is a difficult and emotional issue.
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Dubbs (User)
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iceman wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
WaynesWorld wrote:
Suppose Scientology was performing one of their technologies on the name of your deceased mother so she could meet L Ron Hubbard.
Suppose the Scientologists had told your cousin (who had given them your mother's name) that she was probably just overjoyed at the day of her Scientology tech being applied...she can now progress into the higher realms.
... ?
How about if the technology was being applied to the name of your sister who was not too long ago killed as a result of a car accident?
Wouldn't care, I have my beliefs, they have theirs, there's affect mine in now way, shape or form.
Really? Then one is led to wonder why you spend so much time ragging on me and so many others regarding our religious beliefs.
He is a reason why I absolutely detest organized, "my God is better than your God', religions. If it weren't for religion, Bush and the Muslims would have nothing to do.
Well the feelings mutual for guys like you who claim there religion is truth, but when asked to explain it, can't. Universalism=hogwash.
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Dubbs (User)
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Wren wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
iceman wrote:
Pitt...
We have our own religious beliefs and probably quite different. I do not believe in the various celestial kingdoms, terestial, or whatever, nor the degrees. I do not believe women need to be sealed to a man to gain entry into heaven, or kingdom, and I certainly don't believe men become gods. There is only one in my religion, any more than that is blasphemy.
I was baptised but was not confirmed into the Church until old enough to understand what it meant theologically. But, that's what I accepted at the time. Time does change ideology however.
Some people have an opinion on afterlife, whether it be the good works they have done or have been a loyal member of a church. With that is their belief acceptance to God's presence in heaven, or hell for that matter. They die with their belief system intact...or so they thought. Which is why the LDS should review their practice on interferrence with other religions.
Suppose an LDS apostle, or any member for that matter, dies, and a wiccan or satanist decides that would practice a black art over the grave of the dead LDS member to bring their soul to the grasp of satan or whatever they believe in. Purhaps place an innocuous Baphamet or Pentagram on the LDS member's grave...after all they were just trying to be "good hearted" by sharing their religion. Just how would you feel? This is not to say LDS is evil or satanic, this is an analogy on a perspective.
So who goes to hell? How does one get to heaven in your beliefs?
That was not the original question, and it does not pertain to the discussion. Others should feel free to ignore Dubbs' comment.
I realize whenever the topic get's turned, you and most of your ilk (iceman, Uncle, Grizz, Blogan) don't want to discuss your own jello to the wall doctrine, because it makes no sense and can't be explained. I get it.
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Last Edit: 2008/05/06 14:46 By Dubbs.
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iceman (User)
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Pittakos wrote:
Ice, did you see my explanation back on page 2?
Yes, I did MGF. I think I understand where you are coming from..
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Pittakos,
Your analogy is clear & useful. Thanks!
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iceman (User)
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Re:Vatican keeps parish records from LDS church 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Dubbs wrote:
iceman wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Dubbs wrote:
WaynesWorld wrote:
Suppose Scientology was performing one of their technologies on the name of your deceased mother so she could meet L Ron Hubbard.
Suppose the Scientologists had told your cousin (who had given them your mother's name) that she was probably just overjoyed at the day of her Scientology tech being applied...she can now progress into the higher realms.
... ?
How about if the technology was being applied to the name of your sister who was not too long ago killed as a result of a car accident?
Wouldn't care, I have my beliefs, they have theirs, there's affect mine in now way, shape or form.
Really? Then one is led to wonder why you spend so much time ragging on me and so many others regarding our religious beliefs.
He is a reason why I absolutely detest organized, "my God is better than your God', religions. If it weren't for religion, Bush and the Muslims would have nothing to do.
Well the feelings mutual for guys like you who claim there religion is truth, but when asked to explain it, can't. Universalism=hogwash.
Sorry Dubbs...can you point out ANYWHERE were I referred that my religion is truth? For all intents and purposes, I am agnostic...I believe God.but not organized religion. I've seen nothing but fallacy in "religions". What it all boils down to, is a personal relationship in God, and not influences by a gagle of potentates.
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