Sunday, 03 February 2008
County reps debate property tax swap Print E-mail
Rette Speight - DAILY HERALD   

Before attending President Hinckley's funeral, legislators graced the weekly Eggs and Issues meeting with the Provo-Orem Chamber of Commerce to talk taxes and immigration.

Rep. John Dougall, R-Highland, led a lively discussion concerning the attempt to shift school funding from property tax to sales tax.

"Even those visitors coming through Utah would help fund our schools," Dougall said. "I think that's a great idea."

Dougall said that Utah isn't alone in its tax shift attempts, as Florida, Georgia and Pennsylvania are also looking at similar ideas.

Currently, the Legislature is looking to fund this new shift by slightly increasing sales tax on non-food items and decreasing property taxes to accommodate the increase.

"Everybody hates taxes, but they seem to hate sales tax just a little less," Dougall said.

"There's benefits and drawbacks from every proposal," Dougall said. "Everyone wants to make sure the schools are funded. The question is how do we do it? We just want to put this idea out there and find out what people think about it."

Sen. Curt Bramble, R-Provo, addressed the concerns brought up concerning lost taxes on Internet sales. Bramble said that discussions concerning taxes based on destination or sourcing have been taken to Congress, but is "dead in the water."

"As we've looked at lost sales due to the Internet, the number is shrinking every year as many online stores are collecting sales tax just to be safe," Bramble said.

The illegal immigration issue reared its head as well at the morning meeting. The Legislature has been debating bills on the driving privilege card for illegal immigrants and resident tuition at state colleges and universities for certain illegal immigrants.

Rep. Chris Herrod, R-Provo, said that Salt Lake City alone is deporting about 200 illegal aggravated felons every month. He recently spoke to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials and said they are "overwhelmed" with the amount of illegal immigrants on their agenda.

"They're not even dealing with illegals with misdemeanors, or even first-degree felons," said Herrod. "They only have the manpower to address aggravated felons. The funding for this comes out of our own system. About 25 percent of Utah County Jail inmates are on detain or hold for ICE."

Some felt that as stated in the Constitution, by physically being on the country's soil those immigrants had the same rights and privileges that legal citizens have.

Bramble said he would "challenge" that illegal immigrants have those certain rights, such as voting, because it is a right reserved for citizens.

Gabriel Perez, Utah County Hispanic Chamber of Commerce president and CEO, defended the children of illegal immigrants in reference to the nonresident tuition waiver bill.

"These kids are not guilty of the actions of their fathers," Perez said. "They need to go to school! Those kids need the same rights. They were raised in this country the same way as the other students. They cannot afford to pay the tuition. They love this country, some don't even speak Spanish."

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