Thursday, 17 April 2008
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Joe Pyrah -DAILY HERALD   

It's not news that the high-speed network iProvo is losing money at, well, a high speed.

But $10 million in the hole is as good a time as any to take a jab at the publicly financed system that provides television, phone and Internet access.

 

"No matter how many times the city tries to move the goalposts for what success means or how many subscribers iProvo needs, it can't get away from the fact that iProvo is a dismal financial failure by any standard," said Steven Titch, a policy analyst with the Reason Foundation.

The Los Angeles-based foundation isn't new to the iProvo scene, having released a blistering report in 2006 that the city largely discounted. Reason, which advocates corporate solutions over government efforts, released an updated report on Wednesday. The report stated that iProvo is $10 million in the hole.

While Mayor Lewis Billings and others said in 2006 that it was too early to judge the young system's financial performance, their tone has changed in the past several months as they search for ways to change the monetary slide.

On Wednesday, the Mayor's Office disputed the updated report as well, including the $10 million figure, indicating that the correct number is $9.5 million.

The Mayor's Office specifically targeted the allegation that iProvo was seeing a harmful amount of "churn" in which customers would pick up the service but then later drop it. The number is high until "voluntary" churn is taken into account, namely BYU students moving in and out. After that is accounted for, the numbers show a churn rate directly in line with the likes of Time Warner and DIRECTV.

"The report is flawed throughout," said Provo spokeswoman Helen Anderson.

Several draft reports from consultants are expected today from the city, and the mayor will be outlining options next week.

The city has thus far refused to release details of its plan, saying it is a complicated process. But something will have to change as the budget season is here, and council members will need some sort of guidance in a year when revenues are off across the state.

There are multiple reasons the city has been losing money on iProvo:

• The system was supposed to break even when it reached 10,000 customers, which it did late last year. But the balance has tipped toward the more cheaply connected apartments and away from the more expensive connections of businesses. That means less revenue than expected for that number of subscribers. The city's projections were also based on the idea that 75 percent of customers would sign up for the so-called "triple play" that includes TV, phone and Internet. The actual number is closer to 17 percent.

• The city hasn't been paying fully for its use of the system. If Provo were using a commercial provider, it would be paying for the connection. But it hasn't been transferring the money into iProvo as it uses it, though that was used as a selling point when the system was proposed.

• The service providers iProvo has used have struggled. The first provider, HomeNet, went bankrupt, and the current providers, Mstar and Nuvont, have allegedly been unable to keep up with their payments to the city. That point is being investigated by the state Auditor's Office.

Titch of the Reason Foundation sees one solution.

"Provo now faces the dilemma of continuing to fund iProvo with no break-even point in sight, or sell the property and recoup as much of its investment as it can," he wrote in the report.

City Councilman George Stewart agrees with the concept, "as long as you could come out reasonably whole."

"Why not?" he said. "Why wouldn't we as long as the rates [for customers] stay competitive?"

In the hole


• iProvo net loss before contributions and transfers


2003 - $1,360,738


2004 - $1,419,883


2005 - $1,668,712


2006 - $1,049,975


2007 - $2,004,058


2008 - $2 million (projected)


Source: City of Provo
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WatchDog Apr 17 2008 22:37:14
unaffiliated_person wrote:
John Locke wrote:
The simple fact: Cities evaporate when unable to provide the fundamental infrastructure for business. We live in an information society. Telecommunications bandwidth is the fundamental infrastructure.

Qwest and Comcast Would Not provide what we needed because they couldn't justify the expense. (Maybe because they pay the Qwest CEO Seventeen Million a year.) Hence iProvo.

iProvo and UTOPIA are having start up difficulties - due to obstructive legislation foisted on Utah by Qwest and Comcast. But without the competition of iProvo, I would still be waiting for broadband capacity here in Northeast Provo.

Few Utahns are aware that a second generation internet is being launched this summer. It's called "the Grid" and it's TEN THOUSAND TIMES FASTER than the world wide web. The Grid is a pure data network that runs exclusively on dedicated Fiber Optic Cables; not on a hodge podge of copper wires, cables, and switches designed decades ago to carry phone calls.

iProvo and Utopia are pre-wired to connect our homes and businesses to the coming Ultra-Net. How long will Comcast and Qwest subscribers have to wait for ultra bandwidth? FOR-EV-ER. God bless Provo'S foresight! Give iProvo and UTOPIA time. Do not be penny wise and pound foolish.


Are you willing to raise taxes or skim money from the police and fire budgets to cover the losses? Have you considered how much it cost to bring fiber to your home...perhaps that is why the free market has not placed anything there.


This isn't about taking money (that we are already paying) from fire or police. It's about increasing our sales taxes to pay for this lark.
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John Locke Apr 17 2008 22:46:14
Well done Keeper. Glad to see you are up on the Grid. The blurbs you quoted from Fox News show you know what's happening there. Just as the old DARPA net eventually was commercialized as the www, so will the Grid technology -- given time. And Provo is prewired for the future.

Did I hear someone speak of profits? How much profit has there been in the Central Utah Water Project. Why didn't venture capitalists band together to build THAT? Providing bandwidth is as important to our economic future as providing water. No kidding.

And Word Perfect? I know WP failed because Microsoft sold us buggy source code for Windows. Subsequent Word Perfect software for Windows often crashed. (Everyone soon migrated to MS Word.) I mentioned WP because I wanted readers to get a feel for the human cost of Utah County being left in the technological dust. Other communities are going to bury us if we do not trust the future.



Why would anyone call iProvo a pig in a poke? Thats a pig in a bag the buyer can't look into. The city council that responded to a chamber full of citizens demanding the project be built -- they were inspired, not irresponsible.

Watchdog... watch more. Speak less. We knew exactly what we were getting into including the risks that we might have to subsidize the network like citizens had to subsidize the constuction of the electricity generating plant on Freedom Boulevard.
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Even Keel Apr 18 2008 00:09:11
For those of you who are wondering, make no mistake Provo has been shifting monies out of other city departments in the form of budget cuts and losses of personnel and services for sometime now. If you don't believe that is true, think again. But the bright is when a burglar breaks into your house or your house is on fire you will have a really cool fiber optic line. Talk about penny wise and pound foolish.
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unaffiliated_person Apr 18 2008 14:35:43
John Locke wrote:
Well done Keeper. Glad to see you are up on the Grid. The blurbs you quoted from Fox News show you know what's happening there. Just as the old DARPA net eventually was commercialized as the www, so will the Grid technology -- given time. And Provo is prewired for the future.

Did I hear someone speak of profits? How much profit has there been in the Central Utah Water Project. Why didn't venture capitalists band together to build THAT? Providing bandwidth is as important to our economic future as providing water. No kidding.

And Word Perfect? I know WP failed because Microsoft sold us buggy source code for Windows. Subsequent Word Perfect software for Windows often crashed. (Everyone soon migrated to MS Word.) I mentioned WP because I wanted readers to get a feel for the human cost of Utah County being left in the technological dust. Other communities are going to bury us if we do not trust the future.



Why would anyone call iProvo a pig in a poke? Thats a pig in a bag the buyer can't look into. The city council that responded to a chamber full of citizens demanding the project be built -- they were inspired, not irresponsible.

Watchdog... watch more. Speak less. We knew exactly what we were getting into including the risks that we might have to subsidize the network like citizens had to subsidize the constuction of the electricity generating plant on Freedom Boulevard.



Are you comparing electicity to high speed bandwidth? I use wireless internet that is 10Mps (although with bursts). I am glad I don't live in Provo as I will see my bandwidth increase through free market enterprises, and not have to wait for the government to upgrade their infrastructure every few decades (while being taxed for it).
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littlejon Apr 18 2008 16:31:11
I fully support iProvo for the reasons stated above. It is a good investment and will pay off over time. I like it.

The major problem, IMHO, is not with the infrastructure of iProvo but with the service providers. They have the appearance of being immature startup businesses with an almost 'mom and pop' style. I have seen very little marketing being done by either provider. If the service providers were more established and mature, then Provo would have no problem with the costs of the infrastructure.
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