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Clinton poised for W.Va. win; Obama looks ahead Print E-mail
Charles Babington and Calvin Woodward - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS   

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Hillary Rodham Clinton had every reason to expect a big victory Tuesday in the West Virginia Democratic primary as her campaign tried to use the contest to raise doubts about front-runner Barack Obama's electability in the fall.

Obama, only weeks away from clinching the nomination, has already turned his focus in tone and itinerary to Republican John McCain almost to the exclusion of his fading Democratic rival. He planned to spend primary night in Missouri, a bellwether in the general election.

The New York senator campaigned, though, like it mattered and polls showed her with a commanding lead in the Mountain State, as well as an advantage in Kentucky a week later.

"I think Democrats across the country tomorrow will be asking themselves why Senator Obama -- with all of his money, with all of the great press, with voters being told he was the inevitable nominee -- why did Senator Obama lose West Virginia by 15 points or so? What does it say about his candidacy at this date that he can't beat Senator Clinton in a key swing state?" Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told NBC's "Today" Tuesday.

But the coalescing of party leaders around Obama continued Tuesday, as three more superdelegates -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Rep. Joe Donnelly of Indiana and the District of Columbia Democratic party chair -- endorsed the Illinois senator.

"Senator Obama represents a new generation of leadership, one that can help heal the divisions of the past and unify this country so that together we can build a stronger future," Nagin said in a statement.

Interest is keen in the West Virginia primary, judging by a record turnout of more than 70,000 people who cast ballots in person before Tuesday in the state's liberal early voting system.

Clinton implored West Virginians in four stops Monday to send her forward with a convincing win.

"This may be the most important vote you've ever cast," she told a crowd in Fairmont. "Let's have a huge vote in West Virginia."

Obama made only one appearance in the state, talking up his love of country and conviction that veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars deserve better care from their government when they come home.

"At a time when we're facing the largest homecoming since the Second World War, the true test of our patriotism is whether we will serve our returning heroes as well as they've served us," he said.

In every step now, he's mindful of the gathering struggle with McCain, a veteran both of politics and war who will exploit Obama's short national resume as surely as Clinton has tried to do.

Obama is mounting a two-week tour that will take him to the remaining primary states but concentrate on fall battlegrounds including Florida and Michigan.

Clinton won both states, although Obama had his name removed from Michigan's ballot, and no delegates were awarded. Restoring the delegates is a major part of Clinton's long-shot strategy for the nomination.

Clinton's last best hope is to use strong showings in West Virginia and Kentucky to make the case that Obama is weak among key Democratic constituents.

They are, most prominently, blue-collar, white voters, an abundant proportion of the electorate in West Virginia and a leading reason why Clinton ran strong in the state.

A strong Clinton victory would not materially change Obama's prospects nationally. But it would lay bare the racial divisions and other polarizing aspects of the protracted and often bitter Democratic contest.

Increasing numbers of Democratic primary voters have become entrenched behind their candidate and said they would not support the other candidate in the fall -- a rift the party is eager to start healing.

To that end, the party leaders known as superdelegates have been moving to Obama's side, 29 of them in the week since he routed Clinton in North Carolina and narrowly lost Indiana. Clinton added two superdelegates in the same period.

At that pace, he would reach the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination -- 2,025 -- in three weeks, when delegates from the remaining primaries are included.

West Virginia had 28 delegates at stake Tuesday.

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Calvin Woodward reported from Washington.

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Everybody Loves Raymond May 14 2008 17:16:27
ThomasK wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
I'm not losing anything woody. He continually makes racist remarks. Any association to the Republican Party with this kind of thinking is repulsive. There is nothing wrong with political bantering back and forth. The more I learn of Mr. Obamas political views, the less I consider him an acceptable choice. It has nothing to do with his race. Raymond's points are racist.

Truthfully woody, knowing there are people like Raymond that would vote against Mr. Obama just because he is black, makes me consider my vote for him, just to counter this bigotry. Think about, are all of our problems going to be solved by politicians? Or at this point in our society, is it time to send a message and say, enough with bigotry? It's still a long time till November.


Obama bin Laden's entire candidicy is based on his race! Any white man with that thin of a resume wouldn't have gotten past the Iowa cacus. You think I am a racist beceause I point out how unfit he is for president, fine. You think I am a racist, fine. I don't give a ^%$#. The point is he is not qualified because of the racist anti-american church he went to. He is not qualified because his wife has never been proud of america. He is not qualified because he cannot not even bring himself to cover his heart with his hand to show respect for this nation. He is not qualified because he will go to Tehran and sell us out in his talks with those muslim madmen who cannot be trusted. He is not qualified because his cradel to grave socialism will bankrupt us. He is not qualifed becasue he will pull out of Iraq in the middle of our success and allow Osama bin Laden access to the oil needed by America.

He is not qualified. And when I point this out I am called a racist. Well, I am glad white guilt has gotten to you since you are nothing but a RINO. Go join the Dems and quit dilluting our GOP gene pool, friend. Bet you voted for fatso tree-hugger in 2000 and traitor Navy man in 2004.

McCain is the way.


You're the one losing it, actually you've already lost it. You finally got your ass half way off your bigoted saddle. I'm not here to defend Mr Obama. At least you started talking about some issues. Even if they are a bit twisted and misunderstood. Like I said, I don't like many of his political views. But not in the way you see them.


Twisted and Misunderstood? Look in the dictionary under ThomasK and you will see the very diffinition of "White Guilt."
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ThomasK May 14 2008 17:42:47
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
Everybody Loves Raymond wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
I'm not losing anything woody. He continually makes racist remarks. Any association to the Republican Party with this kind of thinking is repulsive. There is nothing wrong with political bantering back and forth. The more I learn of Mr. Obamas political views, the less I consider him an acceptable choice. It has nothing to do with his race. Raymond's points are racist.

Truthfully woody, knowing there are people like Raymond that would vote against Mr. Obama just because he is black, makes me consider my vote for him, just to counter this bigotry. Think about, are all of our problems going to be solved by politicians? Or at this point in our society, is it time to send a message and say, enough with bigotry? It's still a long time till November.


Obama bin Laden's entire candidicy is based on his race! Any white man with that thin of a resume wouldn't have gotten past the Iowa cacus. You think I am a racist beceause I point out how unfit he is for president, fine. You think I am a racist, fine. I don't give a ^%$#. The point is he is not qualified because of the racist anti-american church he went to. He is not qualified because his wife has never been proud of america. He is not qualified because he cannot not even bring himself to cover his heart with his hand to show respect for this nation. He is not qualified because he will go to Tehran and sell us out in his talks with those muslim madmen who cannot be trusted. He is not qualified because his cradel to grave socialism will bankrupt us. He is not qualifed becasue he will pull out of Iraq in the middle of our success and allow Osama bin Laden access to the oil needed by America.

He is not qualified. And when I point this out I am called a racist. Well, I am glad white guilt has gotten to you since you are nothing but a RINO. Go join the Dems and quit dilluting our GOP gene pool, friend. Bet you voted for fatso tree-hugger in 2000 and traitor Navy man in 2004.

McCain is the way.


You're the one losing it, actually you've already lost it. You finally got your ass half way off your bigoted saddle. I'm not here to defend Mr Obama. At least you started talking about some issues. Even if they are a bit twisted and misunderstood. Like I said, I don't like many of his political views. But not in the way you see them.


Twisted and Misunderstood? Look in the dictionary under ThomasK and you will see the very diffinition of "White Guilt."


What, am I suppose to be ashamed of your label? But seriously Raymond, I don't feel guilt. I've never owned a slave. I've never made a black person drink out of a different water fountain than the one I drink out of. Or any of the other Jim Crow laws our country had in place until 1964. Pull your head out Raymond. Our history isn't as white as your lilly white smart aleck face. The way you talk here is disgusting.
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ericmiami May 14 2008 22:29:31
Speaking of disgusting, did anyone notice Hillary's story about the "dead woman's vote" last night during her victory speech? That was tasteless, even by Clintonian standards.
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Betz
May 14 2008 22:35:17
ericmiami wrote:
Speaking of disgusting, did anyone notice Hillary's story about the "dead woman's vote" last night during her victory speech? That was tasteless, even by Clintonian standards.

I'm going to have to look that one up later.
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ericmiami May 14 2008 22:40:39
Nobody so far has mentioned it. I'm hoping Keith Olbermann will have something later.
She told a tale of a woman on her death bed in hospice sending her daughter to get a write-in ballot so she could vote for Hillary. She died three days later. Hillary said the woman created a legacy for herself by so voting. I almost barfed.
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