Just Reading wrote:
The Keeper wrote:
5Ws wrote:
The Keeper wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: No one hurt in shooting incident

I'm surprised the Sheriff didn't let this one out on bail after six minutes!

Judging from the smile on his face one would think he was under the impression he's going back to the old country instead of prison.

So, Keeper of Asinine Opinions, how long should our government be allowed to hold a person on criminal charges after they have posted bail? If the Sheriff kept him 6 minutes longer than it takes to book him out of jail that would be illegal. We all know you would be demanding your lawyer if you were kept in jail after posting bail. But in your opinion the same standard doesn't apply to those from the "lesser races".

5Double-U! Long time no babble here.

Yes, we all know how police NEVER retain people in jail on trumped up charges to hold them over.

Come on, you can say it, this guy didn't say the magic words, "Vienna Convention", so ICE is still on their coffee break.

Hey Iceman,
Keeper says you and your posse are on a coffee break is this true..??

because I don't think so Iceman, I think with the limited men they give you, you have been kicking butt and taking names, everytime I look at the jail site, I see a whole line of illegals that ICE has busted, I think they are working over time and I for one "THANK THEM"...

Seems to me that instead of ICE human capital (don't you love that new term for human resources) playing hide and seek, per Operation Endgame, with aliens ordered out of the country via deportation orders, ALL illegals should be picked up. Aliens with deportation orders would be swept up along with the rest of the illegal aliens.
http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

The Keeper wrote:
5Ws wrote:
woody wrote:
Just doing the jobs americans won't do....

And you know he's not an American citizen, how? 5 trips to jail for usually violent offenses and never an INS detainer would indicate he's an American P.O.S.


http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateSearchResults.asp?name=gutierrez%2C+freddie

You mean like how ICE didn't show up to detain the last guy let loose after six minutes and he promptly took "leg bail" for the border?

So it's clear you do understand how ICE has to detain them. Why then do you constantly throw the blame at the Sheriff for something you freely admit was outside of his authority? Could it be that it doesn't fit with your Asinine Opinions? Why let a perfectly good fact get in the way of your idiotic conclusions.

Coffee Break...of course! They come right up to us...while we are sitting at Dunkin Donuts...forgot no DD here. Well, not much you can do to change the opinions of the uninformed. Just wonder if there is a police department in Utah that can match the results of 5,800 arrests by three agents. Well..off to get more coffee...think I'll have a capacino latte.

iceman wrote:
Coffee Break...of course! They come right up to us...while we are sitting at Dunkin Donuts...forgot no DD here. Well, not much you can do to change the opinions of the uninformed. Just wonder if there is a police department in Utah that can match the results of 5,800 arrests by three agents. Well..off to get more coffee...think I'll have a capacino latte.

They're probably working at Duncan Donuts!

One would think that the Utah County Sheriff would get a clue after several thousand illegals have been checked into his "graybar hotel".

Looks like Uncle Sugar plans to keep you busy!

Immigration agency plans new family detention centers
The federal ICE, which already runs two such facilities, is taking bids for as many as three more. Critics say detaining families is punitive and unnecessary.

May 18, 2008
LA Times

The federal government is accepting bids for up to three new family detention centers that would house as many as 600 men, women and children fighting deportation cases.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued a call for proposals last month and set June 16 as the deadline. New facilities are being considered on both coasts and on the Southwestern border. The agency calls for minimum-security residential facilities that would provide a "least restrictive, nonsecure setting" and provide schooling for children, recreational activities and access to religious services.

There are currently two family facilities -- a former nursing home in Pennsylvania and a former prison in Texas. The T. Don Hutto detention center in Taylor, Texas, opened in 2006 and faced protests and lawsuits within the year charging that the children were living in substandard conditions. A settlement resulted in changes in how the children are treated.

The need to imprison families stems from the presence of so many illegal families sneaking across the border or hiding in the United States, said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a nonprofit group that advocates a reduction in the number of immigrants.

"This is really recognizing the realities of the illegal alien population," he said. "They used to let everybody out and trust them to come back. That hasn't worked out, to say the least. This is simply the pendulum moving back the other way."

The Keeper wrote:
iceman wrote:
Coffee Break...of course! They come right up to us...while we are sitting at Dunkin Donuts...forgot no DD here. Well, not much you can do to change the opinions of the uninformed. Just wonder if there is a police department in Utah that can match the results of 5,800 arrests by three agents. Well..off to get more coffee...think I'll have a capacino latte.

They're probably working at Duncan Donuts!

One would think that the Utah County Sheriff would get a clue after several thousand illegals have been checked into his "graybar hotel".

Looks like Uncle Sugar plans to keep you busy!

Immigration agency plans new family detention centers
The federal ICE, which already runs two such facilities, is taking bids for as many as three more. Critics say detaining families is punitive and unnecessary.

May 18, 2008
LA Times

The federal government is accepting bids for up to three new family detention centers that would house as many as 600 men, women and children fighting deportation cases.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued a call for proposals last month and set June 16 as the deadline. New facilities are being considered on both coasts and on the Southwestern border. The agency calls for minimum-security residential facilities that would provide a "least restrictive, nonsecure setting" and provide schooling for children, recreational activities and access to religious services.

There are currently two family facilities -- a former nursing home in Pennsylvania and a former prison in Texas. The T. Don Hutto detention center in Taylor, Texas, opened in 2006 and faced protests and lawsuits within the year charging that the children were living in substandard conditions. A settlement resulted in changes in how the children are treated.

The need to imprison families stems from the presence of so many illegal families sneaking across the border or hiding in the United States, said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a nonprofit group that advocates a reduction in the number of immigrants.

"This is really recognizing the realities of the illegal alien population," he said. "They used to let everybody out and trust them to come back. That hasn't worked out, to say the least. This is simply the pendulum moving back the other way."

Clue? In what way? Sheriff Tracey is one of the most cooperative with ICE in Utah, along with Sheriff Edmunds in Summit.