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DonCarlos Wells stands in front of his friend's house where he was issued a parking ticket that Wells is now contesting on constitutional grounds. - Tuesday, July 22, 2008.

Wednesday, 23 July 2008
Provo man invokes Constitution to fight parking ticket Print E-mail
Jeremy Duda - DAILY HERALD   

The Founding Fathers' views on freedom of speech and taxation without representation are well documented. But what would Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton think of Provo's permit-only parking areas?

It's hard to say, but a Utah Valley University student is betting that Patrick Henry would have proclaimed, "Give me parking or give me death!" and is fighting his $10 parking ticket on constitutional grounds.

DonCarlos Wells filed a motion to dismiss his parking violation case in Provo City Justice Court, arguing that Provo's permit-only parking ordinance in the neighborhood near Seven Peaks is a violation of his First Amendment right to assembly. In his motion, the 28-year-old Provo resident said the parking ordinance essentially requires him to get the city's permission to visit his friend's home.

"You can't enjoy your right to assemble if the threat of financial damage hangs over your head every time you try to do it," Wells said.

In February, Wells was visiting a friend who lives on 1420 East near 500 North, an area where the city requires a permit to park on the street, even for residents. Instead of simply paying the $10 ticket, however, he decided to fight.

Wells said his constitutional law argument against the city's parking ordinance caused a minor stir in the courtroom.

"The prosecutor and the judge were both kind of dumbfounded. The prosecutor actually laughed," Wells said.

Prosecutor Steve Shriner said the city has not responded to Wells' motion yet and declined to comment on the case. He said Wells raised his argument in court and was instructed by the judge to file an official motion.

Wells believes his cause is righteous, but Brigham Young University law professor Frederick Gedicks said the parking permit patriot may have misinterpreted the definition of the Constitution's freedom to assemble. The First Amendment to U.S. Constitution states that Congress shall make no law abridging "the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Gedicks said that the key words are "redress of grievances."

"My hunch is that's not what he was doing in the Seven Peaks neighborhood," Gedicks said. "There's no constitutional argument here."

The Supreme Court also recognizes an implied right of freedom of association based on the freedom of assembly, Gedicks said, but that it generally applies to family, living arrangements and political associations.

"The Supreme Court doesn't recognize that right in the context of social associations," Gedicks said.

Wells was partially inspired to file his motion by UVU political science professor Anthony Terry, a former justice court judge for Alpine and Highland. Terry said he does not offer legal advice to his students, but encourages them to use the courts system to the fullest extent.

"I think it's novel," Terry said of Wells' constitutional argument. "And by novel, that doesn't mean invalid. I think that his ideas are interesting. And in our society right now, where individual rights are being so stressed, you can never tell where an argument like this is going to go."

The parking permit programs for the Foothill Park and University Garden/North Foothill areas went into effect at the beginning of the year. According to Provo city spokeswoman Helen Anderson, the Provo Municipal Council approved the program in October due to complaints from residents about people parking on the street. Some residents complained that the excess cars blocked their views while backing out of their driveways, or that their garbage cans were being knocked over.

"As some put it, their neighborhood had turned into a parking lot," Anderson said.

On the other hand, the parking ordinance is a frequent source of complaint from some residents in the restricted areas, which are home to large numbers of BYU students.

"I think this is not just someone trying to get out of a parking ticket. I think this is indicative of a level of frustration that students are feeling with the city of Provo's parking regulations," Gedicks said.

Indeed, Wells feels that the city should not be allowed to require parking permits on public streets that are paid for with tax dollars. The tickets are only $10, he said, but they can add up over the course of a four-year degree for the students who live in the area or frequently visit.

"You can't even have relatives come over from out of town and spend the night ... because if they do, their car's going to get a ticket," he said.

Wells said $10 is the "perfect number" for the unpopular parking tickets, because it is low enough that most people will decide that fighting the fine is not worth the hassle. Even the prosecutor commented in court that the ticket was "only $10," Wells said.

"It's a money grab," Wells said of the permit program. "So far, I'm the first person who went, 'No, screw that. I'm going to fight it.' "

Wells said his motion to dismiss is scheduled to be heard in Provo City Justice Court on Aug. 11.

Property owners in the Foothill Park area, which includes the neighborhood near Seven Peaks, can get up to two permits for $15 apiece. They can also get up to six temporary permits three times a year for $2 apiece to accommodate visitors.


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DonCarlos Jul 29 2008 05:47:10
Wren-

I haven't failed to notice that through all your name-calling and antagonism, you haven't once pointed to or found a single flaw or error in my logic, argument, or case.

Fallacious? Then prove it.

If you can't (and trust me, you cannot), go away and leave this issue to those interested in actually solving problems and preserving their self-determination.
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The Keeper Jul 29 2008 12:30:19
What part of evidence of your consent to be regulated in the form of a driver license is it you don't understand?

Here's a clue! Ask your political science instructor why challenges to asset forfeitures in Federal District Court use the Rules of Procedure for Admiralty and Maritime law. That jurisdiction, recognized by the US Constitution, would normally only apply at the high-water mark, yet is being applied inland.

From the Declaration of Independence:

"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution..."

What happened in this country to bring Admiralty and Maritime law inland? If the Political Science department at UVU is not teaching this, then there's a serious problem with the curriculum.
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FeloniousMonk Jul 29 2008 14:00:27
DonCarlos wrote:
Wren-

I haven't failed to notice that through all your name-calling and antagonism, you haven't once pointed to or found a single flaw or error in my logic, argument, or case.

Fallacious? Then prove it.

If you can't (and trust me, you cannot), go away and leave this issue to those interested in actually solving problems and preserving their self-determination.


Name-calling? I'm not seeing any name calling from Wren. S/He has been completely civil and is only pointing out that your case has problems. If you plan on publicly fighting city hall in the future, you're going to have to develop thicker skin than your exhibiting right now.

DonCarlos, the main problem with your argument is that you assume that you have a right to drive your car wherever you want, and park it wherever you want. You don't. Driving, and parking, on city streets is a privilege. Your friend does not own the street in front of his house, the City does, and it can control who parks on it, when.

By restricting you from parking there, Provo is not restricting your freedom of association--you are still free to associate with whomever you wish, you just need to walk there, have someone drop you off, or park legally to do it. The Constitution says nothing about a right to convenient travel.

Is that a good enough argument, or are you going to demand "proof?" I can cite some cases if you wish.

I'm sure Wren is "interested in actually solving problems and preserving... self-determination" but S/He is trying to tell you that you are just plain wrong in your approach. Local residents voting in their neighborhood committees is the way the permit program got implemented, that's the way to get rid of it. Tell your friend to get active and vote.
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ThomasK Jul 29 2008 15:24:43
DonCarlos wrote:
I haven't had time to comment on what has been written here recently.

I will answer all of what has been misinterpreted, or simply misunderstood in the next few days. Some people have made some very informed arguments for my side and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, some others have been very short-sighted and have made comments that demonstrate that their writers simply do not understand the issue.

I will say that I have received several phone calls from people who I'm not comfortable naming here, who stated emphatically that Professor Gedicks, though he may wholeheartedly believe what he said about my case, simply does not understand my argument, interpreted the law far too narrowly, and simply does not know to what he is speaking in this case. If necessary, I will call upon those people in court.

Also, I have received a phone call from Channel 2 news requesting an interview. I don't know how I will handle that because quite honestly (despite the picture here in the paper) I'm not entirely comfortable sitting down in front of a camera.

I would love to take the time right now to let people know what kind of person I am- what kind of person would "make such a big deal out of $10" to sum up some people's thinking, but it's late and I want to go to bed.

I'll address people's arguments later- I hope everyone can keep things on a positive and logical level and avoid personal attacks because they don't further discussion at all. I hope I have kept up my end.

In closing, I came across a video today that completely sums up my view on this whole issue. In the interest of fair disclosure- it's a campaign video from a third party candidate. I hope that everyone will watch it with an open mind because I feel that it will lead to valuable discussions of important political issues in our daily lives.

Thanks everyone, especially those supporting me.

DonCarlos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxPrULE6dUU

PS: one final thought- if you do follow the above link, please, please, PLEASE do not think that I am trying to compare myself to those great men. I'm not. I simply believe what they believed.

Thanks again.


So how does a parking law prevent your freedom to assemble?
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ThomasK Jul 29 2008 15:29:52
Sir John the Apostate wrote:
ThomasK wrote:
None of those other issues are relevant. Don's only basis is his Constitutional right of freedom to assemble is being violated. Since the street isn't closed to the public. Since he isn't banned from having his assembly; car pool, walk, bike, hop, skip or jump to his assembly that right isn't violated. In other words, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in the Telestial Kingdom of winning, based on that argument.

I know what a snowballs chance in hell would be. But what would be it's chances in the Telestial Kingdom?


Now don't quote me on this, I think it's south of the border. I hear it's very hot down there.
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