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Sunday, 23 March 2008
Is this Joseph Smith? Print E-mail
Cody Clark -DAILY HERALD   
At least one version of an e-mail that's been spreading like wildfire in recent days says it this way: "Check this picture out. It has just been released by the RLDS church as being an authentic picture of the prophet Joseph Smith."

The message includes a photograph that may or may not be a scan of a historical image captured by early photographic technology of the founder and first president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

LDS Church publicists released a short statement on Wednesday saying that church officials can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the photo. Some versions of the e-mail apparently attest that LDS Church historians have the original image in their possession and have either certified, or are in the process of certifying, that it is real. According to the church's statement, "These claims are not true."

 

There is, however, a comprehensive investigation of the photo under way. Richard N. Holzapfel, a professor of church history at Brigham Young University, said that the Internet photo is a reproduction of a daguerreotype, or early photograph, owned by the Community of Christ (formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter

Day Saints), and that the Community of Christ has been attempting for several years to verify whether or not the person pictured is Smith.

(The Community of Christ, which, like the LDS Church, traces its origin to Joseph Smith, was formally established in 1860 under the prophetic leadership of Smith's son, Joseph Smith III.)

"I saw it for the first time in 1995 or '96," Holzapfel said, adding that he's been asked about the photo many times. "I've answered maybe 250 e-mails before last week. I've probably had more than that in the last 10 to 12 days."

Holzapfel said that Community of Christ archivist Ron Romig has discussed the daguerreotype in a variety of scholarly settings, but that Community of Christ officials have tried to minimize its circulation because its origin is still in question.

That hasn't stopped people from speculating, which accounts for the popularity of the e-mail. Provo resident Christopher Bigelow, co-author of "Mormonism for Dummies," said via e-mail that he finds the photo "much more interesting and human" than the "Disneyfied" Smith most often depicted in paintings and films and would be pleased if it's authentic: "This photo really speaks to my imagination."

On the other hand, Bigelow has his doubts. "If I had to place a bet," he said, "I would wager that it is not an actual photo of Joseph Smith, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised."


Unraveling the mystery

It could be years -- or never -- before the matter is settled conclusively. "We'll never be able to prove it 100 percent," Holzapfel said, "because the image doesn't have inscribed on it, 'Taken on this date, by this photographer, this is Joseph Smith, I swear it is.' "

There are a number of things, however, that could indicate whether or not the image is genuine -- including one factor that argues rather loudly against it. Holzapfel said that researchers have already verified that the plate containing the daguerreotype was manufactured after the time of Smith's death in 1844.

That doesn't prove that the individual pictured is not Joseph Smith, Holzapfel said -- only that the existing daguerreotype was created after Smith's death. It could, said Holzapfel, be a copy of the original made using the same process.

Daguerreotyping was new technology in the final years of Smith's life -- it was first introduced in France in 1839 and became popular in the United States later that year. Holzapfel said that documents from the era indicate that there would have been daguerreotypists already in business on the east coast, for example, at the time of Smith's well-known visit to Washington, D.C., to meet with then U.S. president Martin Van Buren.

It's also known, Holzapfel said, that a Latter-day Saint daguerreotypist named Lucian Foster personally met Smith in Nauvoo in 1844, just months prior to the date of Smith's assassination by a mob at Carthage, Ill., on June 27, 1844. Problematically, documents from the period indicate that Foster did not begin to advertise his services after moving to Nauvoo from New York until several weeks after Smith's death.

Other clues to the image's authenticity could come from an analysis of the clothing worn by the individual pictured, and from attempts to correlate the subject's physical features with what is known of Smith's appearance.

Bigelow referred to an article printed in the LDS Church's New Era magazine in December 2005 titled, "What Did Joseph Smith Really Look Like?" (The article can be read online at lds.org.) "I'm not sure this photo resembles Joseph enough to remove all doubt," Bigelow said. "The man in the photo seems a bit more thin-chested, large-handed and darker-haired than descriptions of Joseph Smith, although the large, intense eyes could possibly fit Joseph's description."

Holzapfel said that he thinks the person pictured is not as physically robust as Smith in his years in Nauvoo, but that the image could date from late 1839, since earlier that year a haggard Smith had been released after several months' confinement in Liberty Jail and other prisons in Missouri.

"People always ask me, 'Do you think it looks like him?' " Holzapfel said. "It doesn't matter what I think. We've all created an image of Joseph Smith in our minds.

"If I saw a real one, I probably wouldn't think it was him."


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Jaye Mar 26 2008 16:39:00
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Wren wrote:
WaynesWorld wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Phantom Cat wrote:
This thread discusses the Content article: Is this Joseph Smith?

In many ways it certainly looks like Joseph Smith, at least in the face. Physically he looks smaller. However, clothing or time spent in jail without proper nutrition might explain the discrepancy. Very interesting photo.


Ok I don't see any picture!!
How come your karma is what it is, JR? Your posts tell me you're too big hearted for that.


JR was getting hammered by Dubss on the karma chart. John's karma will get better from now on.


I doubt it. Dubss seems to have been replaced just as soon as he was booted off the forum.

Look at me...every time I return to the forum after being away for a couple of days...I've lost a couple of points.





"WHAT" You doubt my karma points will get better??

Well "THANKS"


what have I done to you Jaye!!

(ME CRYNG)


Oh crapola...didn't mean for it to sound like that J.R. (Jaye pat's J.R. on the shoulder)

But there are a few jerks on this forum who are working in tandem to delete other people's karma ratio...and probably just for the hell of it.

Just look at my karma. I dropped two points in as many days, and now I log on this evening, and discover that I've dropped to O.

Geez...I've been down and out with Salmonella poisoning since Friday. I only logged on for a few minutes yesterday to check my messages, and I posted a couple of comments.

What the hell did I say to piss my unknown assailant(s) off so much?


It's OK Jaye I just gave you a +karma point
I love ya brother!!!


Thanks John.
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Jaye Mar 26 2008 16:39:50
Wren wrote:
I gave you one also, Jaye.

Thanks Wren.
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Jaye Mar 26 2008 16:40:56
Just Reading wrote:
Wren wrote:
I gave you one also, Jaye.

I gave you one also, Wren!!!

Wow I got two -karma points since last night!!

Geez I just can't win around here!!


Just gave you one John. Wren will get one too when the time restriction lapses.
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WaynesWorld Mar 26 2008 22:33:51
Jaye wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Wren wrote:
I gave you one also, Jaye.

I gave you one also, Wren!!!

Wow I got two -karma points since last night!!

Geez I just can't win around here!!


Just gave you one John. Wren will get one too when the time restriction lapses.
Hey! I want in on the karma give outs too...
I see Jaye is sitting pretty at +3.
Wren at about -12 (or something) but
JR is at (drum-roll.....) -100 ! ! !

So, I'll try to give my fellow boarders a point. But I better give the 1st one to JR...bring him back to the double digits.
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Just Reading
Mar 29 2008 03:58:17
WaynesWorld wrote:
Jaye wrote:
Just Reading wrote:
Wren wrote:
I gave you one also, Jaye.

I gave you one also, Wren!!!

Wow I got two -karma points since last night!!

Geez I just can't win around here!!


Just gave you one John. Wren will get one too when the time restriction lapses.
Hey! I want in on the karma give outs too...
I see Jaye is sitting pretty at +3.
Wren at about -12 (or something) but
JR is at (drum-roll.....) -100 ! ! !

So, I'll try to give my fellow boarders a point. But I better give the 1st one to JR...bring him back to the double digits.


Hey thanks WaynesWorld for trying but it seems someone or a few don't like me for some reason, so as of now it's back up to -106

but hey I gave you one +karma point to show my thanks.....
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